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JDPriestly

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87. Hillary is and was too hawkish for me. She is also, in my
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:42 AM
Feb 2013

opinion, too old. I'm a few years older than she is. Trust me, she will be too old to be president for the full 8 years.

I think it's fascinating that some original PNACers and their relatives (thru AEI) were also TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #1
I always considered Lieberman a turncoat of the worst type. Cleita Feb 2013 #2
When they lost General Petraus, they lost their main inside man in this administration. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #71
They have been pretty damn successful, if you ask me. kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #83
I was one of those people... RevStPatrick Feb 2013 #3
Yes, remember. It wasn't hard for people to say it because the ideas presented Cleita Feb 2013 #4
Who could have ProSense Feb 2013 #5
And today, they seem to have more credibility among the non-thinkers than Cleita Feb 2013 #7
...and the Heritage Foundation was an out house for them to shit on the USA. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #9
btw look at the signatures on the Statement of Principles. Cleita Feb 2013 #10
Oh, Jeb Bush ProSense Feb 2013 #16
I sent your post to the Greatest Page. I hope it's not too late. n/t Cleita Feb 2013 #12
And ol' myth wrongney had a bunch of 'em lined up to be his foreign policy advisors. calimary Feb 2013 #42
I like your signature line. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #46
Thanks, it's a quote from a 2009 (floor speech) by Senator Kerry. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #57
...and Bill Kristol and Charles Craphammer still suck! n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #6
Yes, and I'm sure they are still part of the strategists behind all of this Cleita Feb 2013 #8
Yep. You've GOTTA keep track of 'em. ALL of 'em. calimary Feb 2013 #43
PNAC was an offshoot of the Heritage Foundation rdharma Feb 2013 #11
The Heritage Foundation is part of the American Enterprise Institute. Cleita Feb 2013 #13
Who else is a founding member nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #14
Yes, Jeb along with Dick Cheney. n/t Cleita Feb 2013 #15
You bet your sweet bippy. Li'l jebbie bush is a PNAC signatory. calimary Feb 2013 #45
A lot of people also don't know Bush warrantless wiretapping started prior to 9/11... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #17
Yes, we got sucked into a rabbit hole with the Bush coronation. Cleita Feb 2013 #19
It always amazed me that Turbineguy Feb 2013 #18
It always amazed me that they thought their ideas were popular. Cleita Feb 2013 #21
That's a big problem actually. See, these people didn't go away. They were arrogant harun Feb 2013 #44
Truly evil people treestar Feb 2013 #20
Yep, their signatures read like a roster of the damned. n/t Cleita Feb 2013 #22
Here's a list I made back in 2010: PNAC members in positions of power during the Bush pResidency... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #29
Amazing that the Koch Brothers were so able to keep their names out of this Cleita Feb 2013 #30
Thank you, Cleita Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #34
I really hope Cheney goes to trial somewhere. I hope he forgets some day that several Cleita Feb 2013 #36
I was dismayed to see Vaclav Havel on that list. alfredo Feb 2013 #40
Bookmarking. I was going to ask if anyone had a list like this. n/t JHB Feb 2013 #67
Excellent list. n/t entanglement Feb 2013 #69
Charles Schumer is on there. progressoid Feb 2013 #86
Renamed and gone underground.... LeftInTX Feb 2013 #23
They just aren't putting their ideas out there for everyone to see. Cleita Feb 2013 #27
The DLC website is still "up" too, bvar22 Feb 2013 #24
Ssh. The cult of personality truedelphi Feb 2013 #26
Talk About! bvar22 Feb 2013 #35
Yep, this is the reason, I have never been a supporter of Hillary Clinton Cleita Feb 2013 #37
How about Hagel? He was a Republican who voted for the war, people run around here claiming Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #81
Don't care for him or many other of Obama's other RW picks either. Cleita Feb 2013 #82
Hillary Clinton was quite a hawk. And still no apology JDPriestly Feb 2013 #47
Hillary Seems To Be The Odds On Favorite For 2016 President..... global1 Feb 2013 #77
Hillary is and was too hawkish for me. She is also, in my JDPriestly Feb 2013 #87
Sabo (MN), also the late... MNBrewer Feb 2013 #49
I'm not certain to whom you are referring to as "the late"... bvar22 Feb 2013 #52
Sabo is still alive Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #72
my two pennies on PNAC bigtree Feb 2013 #25
Thank you for posting this very important information and for Cleita Feb 2013 #32
They wrote a letter Pres. Clinton in 1998 to persuade Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #28
Well, Colin Powell sure modified his place in history mitchtv Feb 2013 #31
He sure smeared poo all over his reputation with that move Cleita Feb 2013 #33
Yep... K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #38
Yes, they were the big pro-war propagandists. elleng Feb 2013 #39
pdr_pnac.mp3 johnnyreb Feb 2013 #41
"Why rehash this tired old shit now? Wanting to smear Tom Harkin?" MNBrewer Feb 2013 #48
Huh? This old shit brought us to the new shit we are dealing with now. Cleita Feb 2013 #50
I agree, but there ARE DUers who are saying we should let sleeping dogs lie. MNBrewer Feb 2013 #51
Only if they are dead and can't bite us anymore. Cleita Feb 2013 #54
I was hoping the quotation marks would do that :) MNBrewer Feb 2013 #58
Next time, add a link for those of us who need Cleita Feb 2013 #60
k :) MNBrewer Feb 2013 #63
Again - We're At A Point Where We All Know Where The Sleeping Dogs Lay - And We Know What They Are.. global1 Feb 2013 #79
Sounds eerily similar to Mitt Romney's campaign rhetoric. tarheelsunc Feb 2013 #53
Guess who gives him his talking points. Cleita Feb 2013 #55
PNAC believed that liberty, democracy and capitalism were contagious. mn9driver Feb 2013 #56
"...start signing big contracts with US corporations." Cleita Feb 2013 #59
True, but the PNACers really thought it would be different. mn9driver Feb 2013 #61
I agree they should all be in jail. Cleita Feb 2013 #62
Read "Imperial Life in the Emerald City." It's all there - The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #76
I think Rachel Maddow is going to be shining the lights on the cockroaches. rdharma Feb 2013 #64
I'm hoping. She is basing it on that Hubris book so since I haven't read it, I don't Cleita Feb 2013 #65
We were talking about birds of a feather ....... rdharma Feb 2013 #66
Sure and they shared each other and their major benefactors the Koch brothers. Cleita Feb 2013 #68
kr PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #70
bunch of 'em landed here -FDD Agony Feb 2013 #73
Thanks for the links. Cleita Feb 2013 #75
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Feb 2013 #74
and despite bush being out of office, those pnac dominoes keep falling: libya, syria... HiPointDem Feb 2013 #78
I was always intrigued that Iraq was the only country... KansDem Feb 2013 #80
No, I think the original wording of the Iraq War Authorization was intended TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #84
Iraq wasn't the only country Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #85
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