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alcibiades_mystery

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6. No visitors is unconstitutional as a punishment

Reply to Taverner (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:52 PM

Feb 2013

The contact ban is related to an ongoing national security function. If that function is not ongoing, then the contact ban would be just as unconstitutional as a universal firearms ban, a death sentence for anti-government speech, or an absolute right to search your house no questions asked. Each of these would be as unconstitutional as your wacky "no visitors" policy. So, to b e blunt, it doesn't matter what you think. The question is whether an ongoing justification for the contact ban is demonstrable by the government.

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I don't see any problem with this alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #1

I don't care if he changed Taverner Feb 2013 #3

No visitors is unconstitutional as a punishment alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #6

He's been proven a national security threat. Incumbent upon him to make the showing that geek tragedy Feb 2013 #11

Well, he hasn't changed. He's not a threat because of the very sanctions that are in place. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #5

Perhaps... I don't think it's out of bounds to ask the government to prove that from time to time alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #7

I think the trial record serves that purpose. If he can show something that rebuts that geek tragedy Feb 2013 #9

I tend to side alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #12

Sure, because the Weather Underground and the entire leftwing terrorism movement geek tragedy Feb 2013 #13

Needless to say alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #14

All of that was proved beyond a reasonable doubt back in the day. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #18

Yes, we appear to have located a point of stasis in our discussion alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #19

Good day to you as well. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #20

Maybe...just may-NAH! FUCK HIM!!! Taverner Feb 2013 #2

+1000000 Light House Feb 2013 #8

Yep. Taverner Feb 2013 #10

I too oppose the DP for pretty much the same reasons, Light House Feb 2013 #15

Unfortunately, working... Taverner Feb 2013 #16

Sorry to hear that. Light House Feb 2013 #17

He's no longer a threat because of the communications ban. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #4