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Response to Arcanetrance (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:16 PM

24. But their belief is strong because of history. In msanthrope's post above:

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14. Israel Shamir was the source of the CIA/honeytrap rumour---

How many DUers accepted the smear of an alleged rape victim based on bullshit from an anti-semite and a Wikileaks ally?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022392215#post14

From the link quoted, you can see how deep the rabbithole is:

...An American Tea Party website the RightwingNews.com suggested that “a CIA agent with a sniper rifle rattle a bullet around skull the next time he appears in public as a warning”. Rest assured that the CIA is wiser than the Tea Party. They at least have learned the lesson of Che Guevara. Nowadays they ruin a rebel’s reputation instead of wasting a bullet. They won’t raise Assange up to become a martyr, they simply use his own erstwhile allies to reduce him to a laughing stock. They stain him with opprobrium. It is much more certain and final than the marksman’s shot. History is witness to their growing efficiency in using this tactic. In the 70’s, they could only bring themselves to say that Philip Agee was a womanizer and a drunkard. Nowadays they do not stint at charges of pedophilia, for example to humiliate Scott Ritter for failing to go along with George W Bush’s charade of Iraqi WMD. As you might expect, the rape campaign against Assange might be just an initial volley. Perhaps they will decide he is a pedophile too. The unspoken threat is enough to send some faint-hearted supporters of WikiLeaks scurrying for cover.

The bullet can always come later, once the victim has been successfully isolated by the smear campaign. The Gospels tell us that hardly anyone followed Jesus to Golgotha, though just a week earlier the people of Jerusalem hailed Him with hosannas. A Jewish anti-Gospel explains that this was the result of a successful smear campaign managed by Judas, a surprisingly modernist reading for an early medieval story.

For a smear that really sticks, you need to get it from an ex-apostle. An accusation by a Caiaphas does not impress. If you are targeting a leftist, hire leftists. For example, Trotskyites were willing and useful tools against the Communists. Pseudo Anti-Zionists are currently being used to hamstring a genuine Pro-Palestinian movement. Who are the Judases of this campaign against our Julian?


http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/09/14/assange-beseiged/

Those themes come from thousands of years of history, very emotionally heavy. There are reminiscent of the feelings in threads on Dorner and the LAPD. Some of Assange's supporters deny he and the ladies were unhappy with how their evening's private entertainment ended. It's more interesting to go with the idea that the ladies were CIA agents paid to seduce Julian, and he's the real victim.

There is the reek of the 'Bush = Obama = CIA rendition' hanging in the air. So, even if he did as alleged, he will be tortured or 'disappeared' by the global cabal of all-powerful banksters. Not because of the crime of rape but he was standing up against the evildoers at the top of the pyramid, but because they can't stop torturing people at the least, or want all global justice movements to die for sure as they destroy him. That is sure to get people upset.

I find these articles and insights on the workings of the parties surrounding the various factions, Anonymous, Wikileaks and Julian fascinating. Interesting how the 'far left' and the Tea Party agree in some things. There is a consistent theme, an insinuation that the Democratic Party and Obama are out to destroy human rights as part of a global conspiracy.

One can't shake the feeling once one has gone there, can't get down to the grass roots unless one feels they are doing that with the Tea Party, Occupy, Ron Paul, Green or Libertarian folks who connect with each other, in their own secret groups. It is something the media guides people into doing. All else is considered 'kissing up to the Man' but it takes going in government to learn how complex needs and demands create the seeming contradictions to change things or to keep them going as they are.

Trying to make sense of these stories, but would like to see an equal amount of attention given to the human rights of people I can see and hear. Not media figures living in a world of intrigue. The media reports of their exploits read like a movie script and I'm skeptical of them.

JMHO...

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