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smirkymonkey

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8. I'm not. I do not accept it.

Reply to Threedifferentones (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:01 AM

Feb 2013

I do not accept gender roles. I am an individual. I would be mad if I had conformed to them.

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Ensler thread has me asking again: Why do so many women passively accept patriarchy? And more! [View all] Threedifferentones Feb 2013 OP

You don't know what you're talking about. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #1

I can certainly admit that. Threedifferentones Feb 2013 #2

the OP is much like the Ensler post hfojvt Feb 2013 #36

"women are FOR rape" nothing like enslers post. nothing. seabeyond Feb 2013 #43

That, in effect IS what is being asked. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #54

wrong. absolutely wrong. it was not the same at all. the OP was purposely offensive seabeyond Feb 2013 #56

Considering this entire collective conversation has devolved out of the empirical galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #58

so, reality does not matter to you all. gotcha. go at it, then. seabeyond Feb 2013 #61

"Nothing" or "not that much" hfojvt Feb 2013 #67

not gonna rewrite, post 56. wrong. all the difference in "why arent you angry" and "why are you FOR" seabeyond Feb 2013 #68

there was nothing of the kind implied. that is ridiculous. bettyellen Feb 2013 #73

Maybe people are just content with how things have shaken out for them, Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #3

"Men and women take on different roles within their household..." randome Feb 2013 #5

Cultural conditioning, I suppose. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #11

Because of generational construction. In some African tribes, women hunt and men stay home. vaberella Feb 2013 #14

It's interesting how differently the "norms" vary even here.... I'm always taken aback when people bettyellen Feb 2013 #30

in what wys are they the same? hfojvt Feb 2013 #44

there is more work with more people. i assure you, cleaning up after, cooking for four people is seabeyond Feb 2013 #46

the presumption that someone wants to do ALL the cooking or ALL the housework is lame.... bettyellen Feb 2013 #59

i do most all cause it is my job. that simple. and not gonna whine about it. it leaves free time seabeyond Feb 2013 #63

you added some people hfojvt Feb 2013 #65

agreed but, a couple of things. firstly, my hubby better cook and cleaner than i. so, it is not seabeyond Feb 2013 #66

Find a lazy slob to marry marions ghost Feb 2013 #70

chances are very good hfojvt Feb 2013 #83

oh yeah marions ghost Feb 2013 #87

I happen to love to cook and would love someone to cook for, but do not like to clean up. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #79

I don't mind cooking hfojvt Feb 2013 #84

Props for the Pink FLoyd reference in your username, but... Bonobo Feb 2013 #4

Thank you Bonobo haha Threedifferentones Feb 2013 #7

so you were "joking" about women for rape? this was a joke to you? nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #33

I've wondered that my whole life Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #6

That's a reasonable question-- marions ghost Feb 2013 #71

I'm not. I do not accept it. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #8

I can't imagine that where I'm from would make my experiences all that different .. polly7 Feb 2013 #9

"Are they in favor of rape?" Why the fuck would you ask such a stupid ugly question? bettyellen Feb 2013 #10

I disagree. I have wondered the same when I heard Sharron Angle's views. vaberella Feb 2013 #12

That is like saying pro-choice equates to pro-death does it not? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #16

I was referring to the comments made by the women including Sharron Angle in those cases. vaberella Feb 2013 #19

that in no way interprets "women are for rape" nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #34

I'd still question them about it. vaberella Feb 2013 #72

i hear you on this. but really what this Op is about is a diss on another thread. and he is way off seabeyond Feb 2013 #80

to me that's still a big leap to make. rationalizing things and supporting them are not equivocal. bettyellen Feb 2013 #51

Sharon Angle is of the extreme fringe, is she not? bettyellen Feb 2013 #17

No but I would never say a woman is pro-rape Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #18

I never said they were...but I have wondered if they were. vaberella Feb 2013 #22

I agree that's a huge stretch, many rationalize horrible things..... bettyellen Feb 2013 #23

I think women like that actually are pro-rape. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #25

i dont know, nor could i imagine anyone would feel like this. and since i have NEVER heard anyone seabeyond Feb 2013 #37

I don't believe they have any scruples, and it's an all purpose RW dodge... to be anti govt bettyellen Feb 2013 #38

The fact is, she is still female, had a political voice. vaberella Feb 2013 #20

You're equating pro-life and other views with being pro-rape. Very different things. Silly rabbit. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #82

I surmise it was an attempt at a rhetorical question Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #13

Many women are brainwashed through their religious institutions malaise Feb 2013 #15

So true. Religion has really fucked up our society. n/t vaberella Feb 2013 #21

In more ways than I can count malaise Feb 2013 #24

I've never understood PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #26

You got my amen, Sister! no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #28

Thanks! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #31

More of us out there than you think. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #32

You are not alone MadrasT Feb 2013 #77

Me neither alarimer Feb 2013 #41

Ugh.. PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #86

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #81

Yay! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #85

It depends on what women are taught and whether they can think independently. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #27

The Bigdaddy Complex. ananda Feb 2013 #29

women have been conditioned, just like men are conditioned in this society. the more freedom and seabeyond Feb 2013 #35

I agree about conditioning Nikia Feb 2013 #52

i have realized, i was raised as a person, not a gender. i get what you are saying. seabeyond Feb 2013 #57

I actually think we've gone backwards alarimer Feb 2013 #39

backlash for what women gained. i had been talking about this for a while, never having the exact seabeyond Feb 2013 #42

quite a few men here admit they can't have a committed relationship unless the woman bettyellen Feb 2013 #50

absolutely. i challenged the "men pay for dates" a couple times. i had a significantly higher # of seabeyond Feb 2013 #55

It's not fear, but I understand how it might feel that way. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #60

if you think there's a single type of "male attraction" you need to get out more, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2013 #62

again. wrong. not "biological and evolutionary drives". reality that it is good for children seabeyond Feb 2013 #64

You lost me at the biological and evolutionary drives part MadrasT Feb 2013 #78

I agree - it wasn't as bad growing up in California bhikkhu Feb 2013 #74

K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #40

Patriarchy is about wealth and power. Skidmore Feb 2013 #45

thank you skidmore. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #47

it's strange that it shocks anyone that some women go along with this crap. bettyellen Feb 2013 #48

this obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #49

Agreed. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #53

Applauding! MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #76

Because societal conditioning is a potent force LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #69

They think it's the best they can do treestar Feb 2013 #75