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Sheldon Cooper

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3. Maybe people are just content with how things have shaken out for them,
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:37 AM
Feb 2013

at least on a personal level. You seem to be addressing that, as opposed to the societal level of patriarchy. I think women are speaking out against the traditional gender issues with regard to employment, reproductive choice, etc. which are playing out on a larger scale.

But when you go inside someone's home and try to draw conclusions you are setting yourself up for failure. Men and women take on different roles within their household and if two people decide that it works for them, I'm not sure you can be critical of those decisions and assume that the woman is passively accepting patriarchy. It may be exactly what she and her husband want.

I don't know, maybe we're both crazy.

You don't know what you're talking about. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #1
I can certainly admit that. Threedifferentones Feb 2013 #2
the OP is much like the Ensler post hfojvt Feb 2013 #36
"women are FOR rape" nothing like enslers post. nothing. seabeyond Feb 2013 #43
That, in effect IS what is being asked. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #54
wrong. absolutely wrong. it was not the same at all. the OP was purposely offensive seabeyond Feb 2013 #56
Considering this entire collective conversation has devolved out of the empirical galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #58
so, reality does not matter to you all. gotcha. go at it, then. seabeyond Feb 2013 #61
"Nothing" or "not that much" hfojvt Feb 2013 #67
not gonna rewrite, post 56. wrong. all the difference in "why arent you angry" and "why are you FOR" seabeyond Feb 2013 #68
there was nothing of the kind implied. that is ridiculous. bettyellen Feb 2013 #73
Maybe people are just content with how things have shaken out for them, Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #3
"Men and women take on different roles within their household..." randome Feb 2013 #5
Cultural conditioning, I suppose. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #11
Because of generational construction. In some African tribes, women hunt and men stay home. vaberella Feb 2013 #14
It's interesting how differently the "norms" vary even here.... I'm always taken aback when people bettyellen Feb 2013 #30
in what wys are they the same? hfojvt Feb 2013 #44
there is more work with more people. i assure you, cleaning up after, cooking for four people is seabeyond Feb 2013 #46
the presumption that someone wants to do ALL the cooking or ALL the housework is lame.... bettyellen Feb 2013 #59
i do most all cause it is my job. that simple. and not gonna whine about it. it leaves free time seabeyond Feb 2013 #63
you added some people hfojvt Feb 2013 #65
agreed but, a couple of things. firstly, my hubby better cook and cleaner than i. so, it is not seabeyond Feb 2013 #66
Find a lazy slob to marry marions ghost Feb 2013 #70
chances are very good hfojvt Feb 2013 #83
oh yeah marions ghost Feb 2013 #87
I happen to love to cook and would love someone to cook for, but do not like to clean up. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #79
I don't mind cooking hfojvt Feb 2013 #84
Props for the Pink FLoyd reference in your username, but... Bonobo Feb 2013 #4
Thank you Bonobo haha Threedifferentones Feb 2013 #7
so you were "joking" about women for rape? this was a joke to you? nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #33
I've wondered that my whole life Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #6
That's a reasonable question-- marions ghost Feb 2013 #71
I'm not. I do not accept it. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #8
I can't imagine that where I'm from would make my experiences all that different .. polly7 Feb 2013 #9
"Are they in favor of rape?" Why the fuck would you ask such a stupid ugly question? bettyellen Feb 2013 #10
I disagree. I have wondered the same when I heard Sharron Angle's views. vaberella Feb 2013 #12
That is like saying pro-choice equates to pro-death does it not? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #16
I was referring to the comments made by the women including Sharron Angle in those cases. vaberella Feb 2013 #19
that in no way interprets "women are for rape" nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #34
I'd still question them about it. vaberella Feb 2013 #72
i hear you on this. but really what this Op is about is a diss on another thread. and he is way off seabeyond Feb 2013 #80
to me that's still a big leap to make. rationalizing things and supporting them are not equivocal. bettyellen Feb 2013 #51
Sharon Angle is of the extreme fringe, is she not? bettyellen Feb 2013 #17
No but I would never say a woman is pro-rape Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #18
I never said they were...but I have wondered if they were. vaberella Feb 2013 #22
I agree that's a huge stretch, many rationalize horrible things..... bettyellen Feb 2013 #23
I think women like that actually are pro-rape. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #25
i dont know, nor could i imagine anyone would feel like this. and since i have NEVER heard anyone seabeyond Feb 2013 #37
I don't believe they have any scruples, and it's an all purpose RW dodge... to be anti govt bettyellen Feb 2013 #38
The fact is, she is still female, had a political voice. vaberella Feb 2013 #20
You're equating pro-life and other views with being pro-rape. Very different things. Silly rabbit. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #82
I surmise it was an attempt at a rhetorical question Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #13
Many women are brainwashed through their religious institutions malaise Feb 2013 #15
So true. Religion has really fucked up our society. n/t vaberella Feb 2013 #21
In more ways than I can count malaise Feb 2013 #24
I've never understood PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #26
You got my amen, Sister! no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #28
Thanks! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #31
More of us out there than you think. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #32
You are not alone MadrasT Feb 2013 #77
Me neither alarimer Feb 2013 #41
Ugh.. PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #86
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #81
Yay! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #85
It depends on what women are taught and whether they can think independently. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #27
The Bigdaddy Complex. ananda Feb 2013 #29
women have been conditioned, just like men are conditioned in this society. the more freedom and seabeyond Feb 2013 #35
I agree about conditioning Nikia Feb 2013 #52
i have realized, i was raised as a person, not a gender. i get what you are saying. seabeyond Feb 2013 #57
I actually think we've gone backwards alarimer Feb 2013 #39
backlash for what women gained. i had been talking about this for a while, never having the exact seabeyond Feb 2013 #42
quite a few men here admit they can't have a committed relationship unless the woman bettyellen Feb 2013 #50
absolutely. i challenged the "men pay for dates" a couple times. i had a significantly higher # of seabeyond Feb 2013 #55
It's not fear, but I understand how it might feel that way. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #60
if you think there's a single type of "male attraction" you need to get out more, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2013 #62
again. wrong. not "biological and evolutionary drives". reality that it is good for children seabeyond Feb 2013 #64
You lost me at the biological and evolutionary drives part MadrasT Feb 2013 #78
I agree - it wasn't as bad growing up in California bhikkhu Feb 2013 #74
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #40
Patriarchy is about wealth and power. Skidmore Feb 2013 #45
thank you skidmore. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #47
it's strange that it shocks anyone that some women go along with this crap. bettyellen Feb 2013 #48
this obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #49
Agreed. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #53
Applauding! MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #76
Because societal conditioning is a potent force LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #69
They think it's the best they can do treestar Feb 2013 #75
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