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bigapple1963

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62. interesting!!!

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:40 AM

Feb 2013

Why didn't Dorner jump out of the ground floor window instead of shooting himself?

Why did he shoot himself before the fire started? Oh no, I'm gonna burn to death! I better shoot myself before the fire starts.

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So, those who claimed the police burned Chris Dorner to death [View all] geek tragedy Feb 2013 OP

You'd shoot yourself in the head, too, if your other option was to burn to death. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1

His other option was to fulfill his legal duty to surrender and walk out hands on head geek tragedy Feb 2013 #3

Presumes doors weren't locked or blocked from outside. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #6

Sounds like something for the Creative Speculation forum. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #7

does anyone with any credibility still opine the pentagon was not a plane loli phabay Feb 2013 #19

No one with any credibility ever maintined that in the first place. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #23

true but there are stull people who claim weird stuff about it loli phabay Feb 2013 #25

Well, here we have "maybe the police ran up to the sniper's position and physically placed a geek tragedy Feb 2013 #28

And Dorner sat there and allowed them to do it. Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #40

How does one lock a house's door from the outside? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #42

I suppose they could have gotten the key from the owner. Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #49

But you could still unlock it from the inside. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #50

Indeed. n/t Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #51

not if it is a double deadbolt and you have no key hfojvt Feb 2013 #89

While being shot at, police ran up and locked/blocked the doors so he couldn't get out? uppityperson Feb 2013 #20

I think they used chemtrails. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #22

LEO pulled WALLS down... there wasn't a door that could have kept him inside. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #30

The lock didn't stop him on the way in jberryhill Feb 2013 #75

I think it was Peregrine Took logic that took hold, and the cops should have seen it coming. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #101

after seeing what happened to those ladies delivering newspapers that was a viable option for him? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #76

You do know that was a totally different set of cops, right? uppityperson Feb 2013 #77

Does that make that much difference? quakerboy Feb 2013 #78

So if 1 set of police shoot someone who just happens to be human, then you assume a different set uppityperson Feb 2013 #83

7 cops were involved in the shooting of those women VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #94

You do know that was a totally different set of cops, right? uppityperson Feb 2013 #97

Thin Blue Line mean anything to you? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #98

I am having brussel sprouts for supper tonight. uppityperson Feb 2013 #99

I made no such assumption quakerboy Feb 2013 #114

Since they were looking for him for days, seems he could have given himself up at some point. uppityperson Feb 2013 #115

Please. It's his fault and his fault alone he didn't surrender. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #91

So, you are saying "he shot himself in the head to avoid being shot"? jberryhill Feb 2013 #95

Saying if my choices are... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #96

no energumen Feb 2013 #113

Agreed. treestar Feb 2013 #100

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No shit! Webster Green Feb 2013 #44

This is true. We saw that on Sep11th Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #68

HIs other option was to tell them he would surrender treestar Feb 2013 #102

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My opposition if you could call it that was Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #2

Yet another fallacious appeal ... Trajan Feb 2013 #4

So, you admit you were wrong? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #5

Bifurcation fallacy Trajan Feb 2013 #10

The CT that the cops meant to burn him alive has one slight flaw: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #55

Were you there? The News media reported, and played the tape to prove it, that sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #61

He killed himself after the cops sent in the industrial strength tear gas geek tragedy Feb 2013 #69

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For Gawds sake it was obvious that he shot himself 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #87

Alerted on... Agschmid Feb 2013 #34

LOL, what logic is that? When they set it on fire, they didn't know he was dead. Get it? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #8

He wasn't dead when they sent the CS gas in. There was a gunshot after they did. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #9

Funny, so your defense is they tried to burn him to death but he shot himself first so no foul? Logical Feb 2013 #12

No, they used the stronger version of tear gas after the weaker one didn't get him out. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #13

You know it is possible that Dormer is a worthless piece of shit and the police are corrupt idiots? Logical Feb 2013 #14

Some police are. You have no evidence these police were. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #17

OK, I love this. Please justify shooting the paper delivery van and the surfer. Sunspots? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #21

Those were completely unacceptable and should be referred to a grand jury. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #26

How much do you know about Grand Juries and police being charged? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #31

Sorry, I guess that calling for a criminal investigation and due process geek tragedy Feb 2013 #33

+1 Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #43

Of course. Nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #46

diffwrent police than the sheriffs ar big bear loli phabay Feb 2013 #27

Never ascribe to malice... Archae Feb 2013 #38

stupid, negligent, and incompetent BainsBane Feb 2013 #64

that was decided here on DU before it even happened treestar Feb 2013 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Feb 2013 #41

I am glad the incident is over and glad there were no hostages or any other deaths. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #11

Well, you realize that the tear gas they used usually doesn't start a raging inferno? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #15

I listened to the scanner tapes and watched the video. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #24

Yes, the CS gas did start a fire. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #29

Listen to the scanner tapes. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #32

Two different tapes. The guy screaming burn the motherfucker is not geek tragedy Feb 2013 #35

Do you have a link to those? I keep reading about them but haven't come across them and would like uppityperson Feb 2013 #37

In a rapid scan of the video forum this is the first I found. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #45

I listened and nothing about "burn that m-fucker" or anything like that. uppityperson Feb 2013 #47

I agree the burn MF is not on that video as I had listened just to where they start talking about PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #57

Aside from "burn the m-f-er", I am wondering if "burn" in the case of tear gas means it is working? uppityperson Feb 2013 #59

The "burn this motherfucker" tape was from hours earlier. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #48

Link TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #72

At this, it's hard to know what to believe..reporting on this case was terribly mis-managed.. HipChick Feb 2013 #16

Autopsy says bullet to the brain. Pretty straightforward. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #18

Goes to show you should not expect Latest Breaking News to necessarily be accurate. Speed does not uppityperson Feb 2013 #39

Here's a nice pastry for you. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #36

Not mutually exclusive Nevernose Feb 2013 #52

No, it is not even reasonable that the police were planning to kill him with arson. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #53

I give you mad props for the Clash reference Nevernose Feb 2013 #54

Well, the truth is somewhere along the lines of: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #56

Soooooooo... theKed Feb 2013 #58

how could they know? BainsBane Feb 2013 #65

The autopsy was conducted after they sent the tear gas in. By about a day or so. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #71

People choose to jump out of a 100-story building rather than burn to death on 9/11 davidn3600 Feb 2013 #60

interesting!!! bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #62

Not sure I agree with your police work there, bigapple1963. Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #63

what about this scenario bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #67

You still have gross neglience bordering on intent on the part of the police Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #73

If I had wanted to surrender BainsBane Feb 2013 #66

Option 3: LEAVE THE BUILDING geek tragedy Feb 2013 #70

I guess what we've learned today jberryhill Feb 2013 #74

Dorner would still be alive if there had been a good guy with a gun there. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #90

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Are you the real Sam Harris, the author? JaneyVee Feb 2013 #109

I hope to god not, for the real Sam Harris's sake. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #110

I thought he was found in a basement? quakerboy Feb 2013 #79

He was TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #86

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That would seem to make sense quakerboy Feb 2013 #112

Dude, your stuff lately has more red herrings than Russia in autumn. Bonobo Feb 2013 #80

a little more info: steve2470 Feb 2013 #81

Being that Chris Dorner was a one time member of the LA Pig Force himself....... left on green only Feb 2013 #82

Feeling the only way he could live with himself was to murder someone's daughter is really sad. For uppityperson Feb 2013 #84

Agreed! Revenge is perhaps the most vile and most destructive of all human traits. left on green only Feb 2013 #85

He could have surrendered at any point during the week before he died. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #92

If he died of a gunshot to the head, how are they going to study his brain as he requested.... a kennedy Feb 2013 #88

This is a common effect of depression on the brain jberryhill Feb 2013 #93

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