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29. Yes, the CS gas did start a fire.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:50 PM
Feb 2013

That does not mean that was the plan, merely that it was a possibility when they launched it.

You'd shoot yourself in the head, too, if your other option was to burn to death. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1
His other option was to fulfill his legal duty to surrender and walk out hands on head geek tragedy Feb 2013 #3
Presumes doors weren't locked or blocked from outside. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #6
Sounds like something for the Creative Speculation forum. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #7
does anyone with any credibility still opine the pentagon was not a plane loli phabay Feb 2013 #19
No one with any credibility ever maintined that in the first place. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #23
true but there are stull people who claim weird stuff about it loli phabay Feb 2013 #25
Well, here we have "maybe the police ran up to the sniper's position and physically placed a geek tragedy Feb 2013 #28
And Dorner sat there and allowed them to do it. Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #40
How does one lock a house's door from the outside? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #42
I suppose they could have gotten the key from the owner. Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #49
But you could still unlock it from the inside. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #50
Indeed. n/t Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #51
not if it is a double deadbolt and you have no key hfojvt Feb 2013 #89
While being shot at, police ran up and locked/blocked the doors so he couldn't get out? uppityperson Feb 2013 #20
I think they used chemtrails. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #22
LEO pulled WALLS down... there wasn't a door that could have kept him inside. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #30
The lock didn't stop him on the way in jberryhill Feb 2013 #75
I think it was Peregrine Took logic that took hold, and the cops should have seen it coming. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #101
after seeing what happened to those ladies delivering newspapers that was a viable option for him? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #76
You do know that was a totally different set of cops, right? uppityperson Feb 2013 #77
Does that make that much difference? quakerboy Feb 2013 #78
So if 1 set of police shoot someone who just happens to be human, then you assume a different set uppityperson Feb 2013 #83
7 cops were involved in the shooting of those women VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #94
You do know that was a totally different set of cops, right? uppityperson Feb 2013 #97
Thin Blue Line mean anything to you? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #98
I am having brussel sprouts for supper tonight. uppityperson Feb 2013 #99
I made no such assumption quakerboy Feb 2013 #114
Since they were looking for him for days, seems he could have given himself up at some point. uppityperson Feb 2013 #115
Please. It's his fault and his fault alone he didn't surrender. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #91
So, you are saying "he shot himself in the head to avoid being shot"? jberryhill Feb 2013 #95
Saying if my choices are... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2013 #96
no energumen Feb 2013 #113
Agreed. treestar Feb 2013 #100
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No shit! Webster Green Feb 2013 #44
This is true. We saw that on Sep11th Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #68
HIs other option was to tell them he would surrender treestar Feb 2013 #102
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My opposition if you could call it that was Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #2
Yet another fallacious appeal ... Trajan Feb 2013 #4
So, you admit you were wrong? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #5
Bifurcation fallacy Trajan Feb 2013 #10
The CT that the cops meant to burn him alive has one slight flaw: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #55
Were you there? The News media reported, and played the tape to prove it, that sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #61
He killed himself after the cops sent in the industrial strength tear gas geek tragedy Feb 2013 #69
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For Gawds sake it was obvious that he shot himself 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #87
Alerted on... Agschmid Feb 2013 #34
LOL, what logic is that? When they set it on fire, they didn't know he was dead. Get it? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #8
He wasn't dead when they sent the CS gas in. There was a gunshot after they did. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #9
Funny, so your defense is they tried to burn him to death but he shot himself first so no foul? Logical Feb 2013 #12
No, they used the stronger version of tear gas after the weaker one didn't get him out. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #13
You know it is possible that Dormer is a worthless piece of shit and the police are corrupt idiots? Logical Feb 2013 #14
Some police are. You have no evidence these police were. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #17
OK, I love this. Please justify shooting the paper delivery van and the surfer. Sunspots? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #21
Those were completely unacceptable and should be referred to a grand jury. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #26
How much do you know about Grand Juries and police being charged? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #31
Sorry, I guess that calling for a criminal investigation and due process geek tragedy Feb 2013 #33
+1 Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #43
Of course. Nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #46
diffwrent police than the sheriffs ar big bear loli phabay Feb 2013 #27
Never ascribe to malice... Archae Feb 2013 #38
stupid, negligent, and incompetent BainsBane Feb 2013 #64
that was decided here on DU before it even happened treestar Feb 2013 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Feb 2013 #41
I am glad the incident is over and glad there were no hostages or any other deaths. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #11
Well, you realize that the tear gas they used usually doesn't start a raging inferno? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #15
I listened to the scanner tapes and watched the video. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #24
Yes, the CS gas did start a fire. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #29
Listen to the scanner tapes. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #32
Two different tapes. The guy screaming burn the motherfucker is not geek tragedy Feb 2013 #35
Do you have a link to those? I keep reading about them but haven't come across them and would like uppityperson Feb 2013 #37
In a rapid scan of the video forum this is the first I found. PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #45
I listened and nothing about "burn that m-fucker" or anything like that. uppityperson Feb 2013 #47
I agree the burn MF is not on that video as I had listened just to where they start talking about PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #57
Aside from "burn the m-f-er", I am wondering if "burn" in the case of tear gas means it is working? uppityperson Feb 2013 #59
The "burn this motherfucker" tape was from hours earlier. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #48
Link TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #72
At this, it's hard to know what to believe..reporting on this case was terribly mis-managed.. HipChick Feb 2013 #16
Autopsy says bullet to the brain. Pretty straightforward. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #18
Goes to show you should not expect Latest Breaking News to necessarily be accurate. Speed does not uppityperson Feb 2013 #39
Here's a nice pastry for you. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #36
Not mutually exclusive Nevernose Feb 2013 #52
No, it is not even reasonable that the police were planning to kill him with arson. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #53
I give you mad props for the Clash reference Nevernose Feb 2013 #54
Well, the truth is somewhere along the lines of: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #56
Soooooooo... theKed Feb 2013 #58
how could they know? BainsBane Feb 2013 #65
The autopsy was conducted after they sent the tear gas in. By about a day or so. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #71
People choose to jump out of a 100-story building rather than burn to death on 9/11 davidn3600 Feb 2013 #60
interesting!!! bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #62
Not sure I agree with your police work there, bigapple1963. Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #63
what about this scenario bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #67
You still have gross neglience bordering on intent on the part of the police Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #73
If I had wanted to surrender BainsBane Feb 2013 #66
Option 3: LEAVE THE BUILDING geek tragedy Feb 2013 #70
I guess what we've learned today jberryhill Feb 2013 #74
Dorner would still be alive if there had been a good guy with a gun there. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #90
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Are you the real Sam Harris, the author? JaneyVee Feb 2013 #109
I hope to god not, for the real Sam Harris's sake. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #110
I thought he was found in a basement? quakerboy Feb 2013 #79
He was TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #86
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That would seem to make sense quakerboy Feb 2013 #112
Dude, your stuff lately has more red herrings than Russia in autumn. Bonobo Feb 2013 #80
a little more info: steve2470 Feb 2013 #81
Being that Chris Dorner was a one time member of the LA Pig Force himself....... left on green only Feb 2013 #82
Feeling the only way he could live with himself was to murder someone's daughter is really sad. For uppityperson Feb 2013 #84
Agreed! Revenge is perhaps the most vile and most destructive of all human traits. left on green only Feb 2013 #85
He could have surrendered at any point during the week before he died. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #92
If he died of a gunshot to the head, how are they going to study his brain as he requested.... a kennedy Feb 2013 #88
This is a common effect of depression on the brain jberryhill Feb 2013 #93
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