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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:57 PM

Are we really going to pretend we were fooled into the Iraq War? [View all]

I use 'we' and 'us' throughout to mean the entity the American people. Most people reading this, here on DU, were neither fooled nor "fooled."


The American people did not, at any point, believe that Iraqi WMD posed a threat to the USA.

Just because Bush said X, Y and Z doesn't mean that most people believed X, Y and Z. Bush lied plenty... but he didn't fool that many people because the public really didn't care about the WMD. They pretended to in order to feel good about their desire for senseless murder on television.

Aside from the Fox news crowd, the American people thought that:

1) We could use a morale boost, since we hadn't really mass-murdered enough people to scratch our 9/11 itch
2) Iraqis were non-white and non-Christian and thus as good a target as anyone else, and
3) We would steal "their" oil, thereby taking something we wanted from "them."

The American people were not fooled. They were fed a rationalization, which is not being fooled, but rather encouraged into a convenient self deception. The entire RW think-tank apparatus exists to provide a flimsy intellectual facade that couldn't fool anyone who isn't lining up to be "fooled," but that serves as a moral/intellectual fig-leaf for people seeking to rationalize their base impulses. (i.e., "This study shows that cutting off welfare is really doing 'them' a favor.")

I would suggest that Americans were roughly as afraid of the Iraq WMD pretext as they were enthused about the spreading Democracy pretext, which is to say not much. "We" just wanted to see Arabs beat down, and buildings leveled.

Even if everything Bush said had been true there was still no sane reason to invade Iraq. Fig leaf. Pretext.

It was an old fashioned lynching. If you can't hang the one who did it, hang a different one of "them" who is a known troublemaker.

Being the instigator of a lynching is a dark and terrible thing, and Bush owns that. But let's not pretend that the mob itself has a plausible, "we were tricked" defense.

If the American people were actually fooled they would have impeached Bush when no WMD were found, and surely not elected him in 2004. The reaction of the American people was like people seeing P. T. Barnum's mermaid. (A monkey sewed to a fish) People were not shocked by Barnum's shabby mermaid. They didn't burn down the Circus. They always knew there wasn't going to be a real mermaid. The audience seeking entertainment is accomplice to their own deception.

The ho-hum reaction to no WMD being found suggests that nobody much cared whether there were WMD. Where were the riots? Most of the American "us" knew on some level that it was hokum... a pretext to kick ass and steal oil.

Did the people turn on the war when the pretext was exposed as a fraud? No. They turned on the war after that, when it became apparent that 1) we were losing it, and 2) gas prices didn't go down.

We felt sorry for ourselves and felt entitled to murder countless Arabs and to rape an Arab nation's oil. Bush wanted to do it. Not enough people felt like doing anything to stop it.

This is close enough to a democracy that "we" shoulder the blame.

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