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Honeycombe8

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31. All we know so far about the reason Dorner was fired...

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:10 PM

Feb 2013

was that he filed a complaint against a trainer for abusing him, an investigation was conducted, and he was found to have lied on the complaint.

You are assuming the investigation findings were wrong, but we don't know that.

Now that we know a bit of Dorner's personality, is it really far fetched that he did lie about the complaint? We know even that Dorner didn't like women being in authority over him. For no particular reason, other than they're women, it seems. Someone who cries racism turns around and is found to be sexist? Something doesn't fit.

Even if the LAPD has a lot of bad people in it, it could still be the case that Dorner was one of them, and he lied about a complaint.

The LAPD is not a person. Every organization has good people and bad people in it. So it's not right to say the "LAPD" has blood on its hands, since you're lumping some good people in with that.

It's just possible that something has been wrong with Dorner for a long time, and the LAPD caught it and got rid of him.

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Yes, Dorner was a murderer who killed innocent people, [View all] MadHound Feb 2013 OP

Excellent post and it explains exactly how I feel about this mess, here in SoCal. BlueCaliDem Feb 2013 #1

I pretty much... Never agree with you... Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #2

Are we allowed to be as sensible as this on this particular topic? Squinch Feb 2013 #3

Dorner has nothing to add to the LAPD conversation. randome Feb 2013 #4

Sometimes it take an act of extreme violence to shine a light on evil, MadHound Feb 2013 #11

Dorner thought everyone but him was to blame for his problems. randome Feb 2013 #14

Everyone? Is that consistent with his memo (aka "manifesto") AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #39

His rants went back to perceived slights against him before LAPD rustydog Feb 2013 #72

One ex-girlfriend put him on Dontdatehimgirl.com! MADem Feb 2013 #48

Are you truly that ignorant of the history and reputation of the LAPD? MadHound Feb 2013 #60

Like drone attacks on fundie nuts who bomb schools filled with young girls snooper2 Feb 2013 #17

The work of the Abolitionists were both well-known and advertised prior to Harper's Ferry. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #67

It prompted to other people to come forward. Both are no longer with the department and Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #20

Other than the fact that he's why we're talking about the LAPD right now. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #58

We've been working on it for a long time, way before Dorner popped up. cui bono Feb 2013 #65

Now if Dorner had taken time to document all those abuses then he could have done some good. dkf Feb 2013 #5

Of course he did. He ruined any chance at sympathy or credibility morningfog Feb 2013 #16

you honestly believe that they will reopen the case now? frylock Feb 2013 #51

I admire police that are willing to tell the truth about police abuses Bonobo Feb 2013 #6

Great post. I agree with just about every word. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #7

based on his actions he doesn't really have crediblity JI7 Feb 2013 #8

Dorner being a mass murderer is ALL the story is. Bad cops are 100% IRRELEVANT to the story. graham4anything Feb 2013 #9

Well, at minimum, just the consideration that the LAPD fired upon three innocents, multiple times, MadHound Feb 2013 #12

without Dorner, there would have been no collateral. graham4anything Feb 2013 #18

No matter what theKed Feb 2013 #29

Meh. Dorner made them do it. jsr Feb 2013 #33

correct. graham4anything Feb 2013 #34

You, sir, theKed Feb 2013 #38

some people's opinions are simply not worth a fucking damn.. frylock Feb 2013 #53

Ignoring is just a symptom of a closed mind. cui bono Feb 2013 #66

i went back and forth with some yahoo on this dorner cookout.. frylock Feb 2013 #68

response 53 recommended graham4anything Feb 2013 #61

Psychological evaluation recommended theKed Feb 2013 #64

LA Times does not agree with you... Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #69

Wait, what?! MadHound Feb 2013 #54

without Dorner, there was no collateral damage graham4anything Feb 2013 #62

Know any cops? Got any cops in the family? MadHound Feb 2013 #63

"Dorner being a mass murderer is ALL the story is" Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #22

My thoughts exactly! DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #10

I disagree with geek tragedy Feb 2013 #13

I posted this earlier in another thread: Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #15

I am much less likely to pay attention to anyone who holds Dorner up as some kind of hero. So at DevonRex Feb 2013 #19

Thank you Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #21

Bingo. Little Star Feb 2013 #47

Glad you agree Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #59

And Dorner's actions will set back the effects to clean up the department. iandhr Feb 2013 #23

Only we can do that. n/t DeSwiss Feb 2013 #28

But SoCal PD response to him has turned all eyes upon them. Then they told media to Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #30

The LAPD is not a person. SCVDem Feb 2013 #24

No the LAPD is not a person it is an institution Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #49

I want to see the results of the shooting board SCVDem Feb 2013 #57

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #25

Great, great post. Light House Feb 2013 #26

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2013 #27

All we know so far about the reason Dorner was fired... Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #31

Oh I have no doubt that Dormer had something "wrong" with him, MadHound Feb 2013 #55

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #32

That's putting a lot of credence in the words of a terrorist. SCVDem Feb 2013 #35

First post on DU to claim Dorner was killed to keep him silent. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #36

He murdered a police officer's daughter to "break the gang's rule of silence"? uppityperson Feb 2013 #40

That poster is no longer with us, nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #42

right on all points, eom arely staircase Feb 2013 #37

Well said, I totally agree Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #41

DURec, but not many here... bvar22 Feb 2013 #43

Unfortunately it's not just here that few are capable of nuance, gray area thinking or multitasking Fumesucker Feb 2013 #45

These are entirely separate issues. baldguy Feb 2013 #44

No other police department in the country would have refrained from shooting the wrong vehicles? Fumesucker Feb 2013 #46

Differently how? MadHound Feb 2013 #56

evidently these very salient points escape many.. frylock Feb 2013 #50

More than that DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #52

Very well stated. Similar, in fact, to the LA Times editorial on the same subject. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #70

Nonono, black *or* white, don'cha know!?! ;) k&r n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #71