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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)106. Those who refer to her death as "retributive justice' and those who say
"I am not a detractor of his" etc etc.
Certainly there's been a lot more outrage at Dorner's death than there has been at the deaths of the people he butchered.
How many threads of people denouncing the police as muderers , vigilantes, and murderers based on the mere fact that they didn't like the fact that Dorner died--all receiving dozens of recs? (yes, I know they claim it was a due process concern, but not a single one has explained how his due process rights were violated)
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What? You mean the 'gubberment conspiracy' to take him out isn't the extent of the story?
onehandle
Feb 2013
#4
No. You address the real issues head on and leave this other nonsense alone.
BlueStreak
Feb 2013
#168
Neither Ned Kelley, Billy the Kid, nor Bonnie and Clyde ever ambushed and murdered ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2013
#186
The "they" that shot up the vehicles is NOT the "they" that surrounded the cabin.
MADem
Feb 2013
#23
The "they" that were running the show were the San Bernadino County Sheriff's Department.
MADem
Feb 2013
#35
Yes, and they had an APV out there that was tearing down the walls of the cabin, too.
MADem
Feb 2013
#114
Do you realize those that "shot up the vehicles" were not the same departments either???????????????
George II
Feb 2013
#57
Both shootings were IN Torrance, the first by LAPD, the second by Torrance PD.....
George II
Feb 2013
#134
or, one may feel that you are missing a very glaring point. the victims.... nt
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#12
No, the ones about whom you've shown zero concern. As has most of the site. nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#82
Yes, some of whom left spouses and young children. It's rather unfortunate that a very small crew
MADem
Feb 2013
#16
There are inconvenient truths to his situation, too, that people would rather not acknowledge.
MADem
Feb 2013
#90
My sympathy for Mr Dorner ends at the two uninvolved people he murdered. That said ....
marble falls
Feb 2013
#21
What is more messed up is the outrage on Dorner's behalf, not for Monica Quan or Keith Lawrence.
dkf
Feb 2013
#25
Most people are outraged, not on dorner's "behalf", but at the inappropriate actions of police.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#32
And Dorner murdering Quan and Lawrence in cold blood was an appropriate action?
dbackjon
Feb 2013
#42
That is where you get it all wrong. There is not ONE DUer who thinks Dorner's murders were ok.
robinlynne
Feb 2013
#74
His manifesto fails my smell test. He rants on about how he wants to kill mean lesbian bosses and
MADem
Feb 2013
#66
They aren't controversial but he is? People like to talk about controversy. It's human nature.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#31
By that logic, we should never have trials for murder. While the courts are flawed, lynch mobs have
yurbud
Feb 2013
#38
I am not implying that at all, but "due process" like the Geneva Convention is for people we don't
yurbud
Feb 2013
#54
I was arguing with your comment about the victims which implied that with that crime,
yurbud
Feb 2013
#133
people are giving the domestic equivalent of the argument for torture and drone executions
yurbud
Feb 2013
#44
Indeed. If this were a simple event of a nutcase killing innocents and, in the end, being chased
Nay
Feb 2013
#59
What about the inflexible mob that is unwilling to admit that Dorner had a chance to surrender
dbackjon
Feb 2013
#48
So, your stance is that Dorner is the real victim, and until his good name is cleared
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#85
I disagree. Decent people will be concerned about investigating this case and bringing those
ciking724
Feb 2013
#130
If it wasn't against the TOS to call you a troll, I'd call you a troll. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Feb 2013
#169
This man was not insane, and you know that. He WAS NOT a serial murderer, or he
ciking724
Feb 2013
#167
How dare you call a DUer evil while excusing a serial killer. Yes, he was a serial killer.
DevonRex
Feb 2013
#181
People who identify with a serial killer generally are sociopaths to begin with.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#123
these argument about dorner are really pushing on the intellectually dishonest territory
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#77
yes, because there is historical context there. not because of nothing.
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#92
Historical context is irrelevant to the blameworthiness of a man who murders
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#93
yes, and no one is saying that she was not a victim or that her death was not sad
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#100
one person w. 65 posts on du. my original argument that people are really stretching
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#105
again, we can't control individual mad men we however have a responsibility to control
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#109
one du'er with 65 posts, is your best example of how du'ers dont think about the victim.
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#104
this is because we can't stop individual people but the state acts at our behest
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#108
Yes, Lioness, you are exactly correct. I expect DUers to be better at critical thinking, and I
Nay
Feb 2013
#91
The main point of intellectual dishonesty is the claim that the police use of the tear
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#127
When people make shit up about how his rights were violated, that's a tacit
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#135
yeah i agree. also we dont exert control over random civilian actions (even if they are as heinous
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2013
#174
The reason for the difference is that DU is largely a place for discussing public affairs.
Jim Lane
Feb 2013
#122
The question, though, is whether this debate would be going on under the exact
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#139
Too many people are trying to "understand" Dorner and intellectualized gibberish defenses of him
bluestateguy
Feb 2013
#140