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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
161. Totally agree
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:43 AM
Feb 2013

Don't the parents get a choice, too? Though they will probably end up with the responsibility anyway if this girl decides to keep the baby.

I am hoping that your last sentence proves correct. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #1
In a rational world Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #2
It is her body and her choice bluestateguy Feb 2013 #3
Husbands also insist. One example, woman takes pill for many years to not have a child as they work. freshwest Feb 2013 #59
I know of a case where this type of thing happened in a very LIBERAL marriage. CTyankee Feb 2013 #164
I am pro-choice. If this girl wants to keep her baby then she should be able to. However, southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #107
I agree with you in principle bluestateguy Feb 2013 #111
That is sad. My son had a child out of wedlock and eventually married the girl. He southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #158
She doesn't necessarily want to keep it marshall Feb 2013 #153
If she wants to give it up for adoption that is fine. However, her parents should be responsible southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #156
Why are her parents responsible? leftynyc Feb 2013 #160
Totally agree theHandpuppet Feb 2013 #161
That's their choice leftynyc Feb 2013 #163
Because a 16 yr old is usually still in school and I know that the girls parents always southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #165
That's their choice leftynyc Feb 2013 #166
I wasn't talking about 18 yr old. Am talking about 16 yr old who are most likely still southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #167
I'm wondering if she realizes leftynyc Feb 2013 #168
I don't know. But good parents will likely take up the slack. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #169
That wouldn't teach her a lesson leftynyc Feb 2013 #172
Well your twin is wise to do that. But you are talking about innocent baby who didn't southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #173
Let me ask you this. What if it were your grandchild? Could you give it up? southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #174
My brother went through this with his girlfriend Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #4
She should be allowed to have this baby if she wants ck4829 Feb 2013 #5
And who will support the baby? And new mother? marybourg Feb 2013 #10
She could give the child up for adoption leftynyc Feb 2013 #14
And what if she doesn't want to do that either? marybourg Feb 2013 #16
It's her choice, marybourg! Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #53
She needs to put on her big girl pants and support that child herself. If she can't, kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #98
Yes, yes, and yes. n/t KarenS Feb 2013 #103
+1 nt Selatius Feb 2013 #154
Then she's going to grow up - very fast leftynyc Feb 2013 #159
exactly. judgment is what the right does. We fight for freedom not judgment. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #15
You have valid points but they still all go with the pregnant teen's CHOICE. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #17
Valid points. HappyMe Feb 2013 #21
I wasn't disagreeing with her choice. I was marybourg Feb 2013 #24
Forcing her to have an abortion she HappyMe Feb 2013 #41
This is not going to be a popular opinion but I believe it is my job to raise ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #43
^exactly this Marrah_G Feb 2013 #49
Good response. This is what I decided when my 16 yo daughter told me she was pregnant. Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #62
that's the way it should be. I'm glad you have such love in your life. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #67
I agree with you, popular opinion or not. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #70
I did not make a distinct choice to raise my unwed teenage daughter's child Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #74
I'm talking about the choice of the parent to have the child (who later ends up pregnant) ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #76
The poster you were replying to was speaking from that angle. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #79
But get the red out Feb 2013 #124
I totally agree. It's why I caution my 14-year-old son quite often. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #125
+1. Absolutely nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #127
"And who will support the baby? And new mother?" NCTraveler Feb 2013 #51
You can't allow "social concerns" to outweigh an individuals right to self-determination Xithras Feb 2013 #52
Those are certainly all fair questions bluestateguy Feb 2013 #60
I will, with my tax dollars. Iggo Feb 2013 #69
me too. gladly. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #72
Me too. LittleBlue Feb 2013 #171
Taxpayers. Moral taxpayers, that is. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #97
One thing we know for certain xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #102
These things are not at issue treestar Feb 2013 #116
The choice is hers BUT get the red out Feb 2013 #123
not sure what welfare laws are if you are a minor living with parents JI7 Feb 2013 #130
what about a 16 y.o.s choice to drink alchohol, drive a car own a firearm leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #11
It is HER body Marrah_G Feb 2013 #50
Then it is entirely incumbent upon this young girl to divorce herself legally from her parents. KittyWampus Feb 2013 #63
i said the same thing and was called a republican for it leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #66
So, we should only have children for the good times? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #82
So, just toss her out? HappyMe Feb 2013 #90
I agree with you there HockeyMom Feb 2013 #106
Her parents shouldn't be responsible, but they are, legally til this girl is 18 yrs old. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #110
so does that mean if she rode a bicycle without a helmet they could say liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #117
I've already said downthread and upthread I agree with you. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #118
Unless she is declared Emancipated Minor HockeyMom Feb 2013 #119
The parents bear part of the responsibility for this pregnancy, IMHO, kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #108
she doesn't live with her parents it said as much in the article azurnoir Feb 2013 #115
I am not disagreeing tblue Feb 2013 #92
It is not about a 10 year old, it is about a 16 year old Marrah_G Feb 2013 #95
I know that. tblue Feb 2013 #138
When you force a young woman to do something like this you create great harm Marrah_G Feb 2013 #141
Of course. Marra_G. I am NOT saying force this woman to do anything. tblue Feb 2013 #148
Oh good... I'm sorry that I misjudged what you were saying Marrah_G Feb 2013 #149
+ 100 Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #58
Her body her choice. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #6
I think it's wrong of the girl's HappyMe Feb 2013 #7
If you search elsewhere in your media you will find dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #19
This is the point I've always tried to make - that choice thing works both ways!! SaveAmerica Feb 2013 #8
hear, hear! Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #12
Good for her. MadrasT Feb 2013 #9
when does a girl become a woman snooper2 Feb 2013 #20
you'd have to define woman - just so not to be sexist. the same can be said about boy to man leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #22
that's what laws are for right? snooper2 Feb 2013 #23
im not sure what you mean. the law says you're not really able to make your own decisions leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #27
16 and 17 year olds get jobs, get apartments, and even get tried as adults if they commit liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #29
they get jobs with workers permits (or have they been done away with) leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #33
I have friends who have had babies at 17 and have gone out on their own liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #36
ok but that's not what we're talking about leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #73
If her parents don't want to help raise the child they can tell her to get out liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #77
Actually that's not true. Parents are legally responsible for minor children til they are 18 yrs old riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #86
It happens everyday. I know friends who have been kicked out for being pregnant. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #89
I understand. But if this child is already seeking legal redress against her parents, riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #96
Maybe. Maybe not. All she is doing right now is suing for the right to have the child. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #99
Doesn't change the law - the parents are responsible for this girl. riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author avebury Feb 2013 #145
Yep, and I know one who had a baby at nineteen, and juajen Feb 2013 #134
So when can a 14-15-16-17 year old decide she wants an abortion snooper2 Feb 2013 #30
when she's out of the nest and on her own, paying her own bills - leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #37
sorry but that sounds like republican talk to me liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #42
your situation is not the situation being discussed leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #57
You do realize you are arguing for parents to deny a 16-year-old the joeybee12 Feb 2013 #32
I haven't taken any side in this case... snooper2 Feb 2013 #35
I realize that...but if you say she has no right to decide to keep the child; joeybee12 Feb 2013 #38
of course.... snooper2 Feb 2013 #39
There's lots to consider...and terminating a preganncy is not joeybee12 Feb 2013 #40
+1 Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2013 #31
She should be able to make her own choice Marrah_G Feb 2013 #13
but she is not ON her own and HER decision will affect and involve everyone around her leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #26
Some people here seem to forget that very important fact: she is not alone on her own BlueCaliDem Feb 2013 #44
agreed leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #68
Agreed! I know many women who are raising their grandchildren. queenjane Feb 2013 #88
As I said upthread--then perhaps her parents should reconsider their own choice to have a child. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #46
I agree 100%. HappyMe Feb 2013 #56
You don't know that mom (and dad) didn't do that. Mariana Feb 2013 #71
A frank talk about the HappyMe Feb 2013 #80
And what if during a frank talk Mariana Feb 2013 #105
Exactly! phylny Feb 2013 #150
+ 5 brazillion kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #112
+1 liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #64
But we deal with them-since we are the adults- we marybourg Feb 2013 #81
Sorry, but I didn't have my kids only for the stress-free moments. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #84
my dad still helps all of us whenever we need help liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #85
And that's his choice leftynyc Feb 2013 #162
That doesn't matter Marrah_G Feb 2013 #47
I agree 100%. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #48
That doesn't MATTER? How many people are you prepared to support for 21 years without marybourg Feb 2013 #83
It is HER choice, HER body, HER choice! Marrah_G Feb 2013 #93
I gladly pay taxes to help people in these exact situations liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #94
I think you mean 18 years. Once 18, no one has any obligation to him/her anymore. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #114
Varies by state. marybourg Feb 2013 #120
It does. In TX however, where this case is, it's 18 years old. Other states its 21 yrs old. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #126
There are states where one is NOT legally an adult at 18??? Do tell - link, please. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #128
Here's one link that deals with illegal behavior - Nebraska parents are responsible til 19 yrs old riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #137
Actually it would be less then two years Marrah_G Feb 2013 #142
She may be eligible for assistance Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #55
thank you for the service you provide liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #61
Thank you too. Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #65
An excellent case of "be careful what you wish for" for the anti-choicers. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #25
good for her. How can you force someone to have an abortion? liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #28
This setup smells. Archae Feb 2013 #34
So the anti-abortion group is pro-choice. progressoid Feb 2013 #45
Her body, her choice. That is what Pro-CHOICE means. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #54
It is HER choice, just as it would be if she wanted an abortion and her parents opposed it. NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #75
Her body, her choice. The situation or group helping her Dash87 Feb 2013 #78
I have to concur that she should be able to choose whether or not Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #87
All legal theories are convenient. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #91
Right to choose also means she can choose to have the child davidn3600 Feb 2013 #100
I have based arguments on this exact scenario against parental notification loyalsister Feb 2013 #101
Three very very telling snips from the article that lead me to believe this is BS+ azurnoir Feb 2013 #104
That's what I got reading this. Completely fabricated bullshit from the anti-choice scum. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #121
yep and it sounds as if perhaps the anti-choicers azurnoir Feb 2013 #132
Exactly. The republicans and their Corporate Dem allies favorite division issue. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #136
Pro Choice means it is her choice. But, supporting the child is kiranon Feb 2013 #131
sounds more like it'll fall on her Grandparents azurnoir Feb 2013 #135
They can't treestar Feb 2013 #113
I smell total BS LeftInTX Feb 2013 #122
I wonder if her parents Politicalboi Feb 2013 #129
Our 17-year old daughter got pregnant riqster Feb 2013 #133
The girl does not need an abortion as much as she avebury Feb 2013 #139
Denise is the 16 year old girl's mother, not the 16 year old herself Marrah_G Feb 2013 #143
If the girl decides to give the baby up avebury Feb 2013 #147
I have to laugh at the responses in this thread. Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #140
I defend the right to choose Marrah_G Feb 2013 #144
I'm just constantly amazed Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #146
I do not think those people advocated legal action toward Dugger. joshcryer Feb 2013 #151
Actually, they advocated Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #152
If that is so that is unfortunate. joshcryer Feb 2013 #155
That personal opinion Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #157
It's her body, her choice. Period LittleBlue Feb 2013 #170
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