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BainsBane

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62. how does that effect LAPD behavior?

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:39 PM

Feb 2013

in the slightest? That a bunch of people online talk about LAPD corruption? The LA community, the FBI, and the DOJ are the only ones who have any impact on the LAPD.
What people think on DU--or the "national conversation"--means nothing, other than people buy into the justifications of a murderer,

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So, Dorner's Only Means to Expose LAPD Corruption Was To Kill People? [View all] Yavin4 Feb 2013 OP

He waited two weeks to make his allegations. randome Feb 2013 #1

I doubt many people would agree that Dorner acted in an intelligent sensible way, however. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #2

Major under statement: "Because Dorner did not use a good method for exposing the LAPD" Yavin4 Feb 2013 #5

Killing people destroys your (Dorner's) credibility, not the credibility of the message. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #44

well said. robinlynne Feb 2013 #53

People don't work that way. randome Feb 2013 #54

Agree. And not just w/insane people. Anybody who screws up once is forever branded gateley Feb 2013 #76

k&r Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #3

Dorner is not different from any other disgruntled ex employ that goes in and shoots up his former Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #4

+1 BainsBane Feb 2013 #50

Is there a goddamn straw man FACTORY in town? nt sibelian Feb 2013 #6

Because you cannot form a logical rebuttal to my post... Yavin4 Feb 2013 #7

"an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position" sibelian Feb 2013 #73

I Didn't Misreprsent The Dorner Supporters' Position Yavin4 Feb 2013 #74

He only wanted to make a name for himself KingFlorez Feb 2013 #8

Oh, his name will be remembered all right. randome Feb 2013 #55

How many people has LAPD killed? Downwinder Feb 2013 #9

He Was a LAPD cop for 3 Years Yavin4 Feb 2013 #10

Obviously. Downwinder Feb 2013 #11

Maybe he was the product of Navy culture. bayareamike Feb 2013 #29

That could well be. Downwinder Feb 2013 #30

Or, it could just be that this was a guy bayareamike Feb 2013 #31

Dr. Frist? HangOnKids Feb 2013 #32

At least mine is speculation bayareamike Feb 2013 #33

Just spewed coffee on the monitor HangOnKids Feb 2013 #36

So, do you want to actually discuss anything bayareamike Feb 2013 #38

Careful Mikey HangOnKids Feb 2013 #39

LOL. Mikey? Nothing like being condescending. We're done here. nt bayareamike Feb 2013 #40

Good. Bye Bye HangOnKids Feb 2013 #41

No welcome to ignore? BainsBane Feb 2013 #52

LAPD's hiring process should have filtered that out. Downwinder Feb 2013 #35

Agreed. nt bayareamike Feb 2013 #37

and look at the army's current hiring practices..... robinlynne Feb 2013 #57

I think Dorner was the product of a lot of other cultures before he got to LAPD. haele Feb 2013 #14

agreed onenote Feb 2013 #49

I don't know how many people the LAPD has killed onenote Feb 2013 #16

I don't know, but when they shoot up newspaper ladies Downwinder Feb 2013 #21

Well, the LAPD has 10,000 police officers and you don't know how many have ever shot anyone onenote Feb 2013 #22

That is why I asked. Downwinder Feb 2013 #23

There's some numbers here: bhikkhu Feb 2013 #75

Thanks. I'll have to study this a bit. Downwinder Feb 2013 #77

if you live in LA you hear about LAPD shootings pretty regularly. It is not at all uncommon. robinlynne Feb 2013 #59

It happens on a pretty regular basis here. robinlynne Feb 2013 #58

Well, the national conversation now includes LAPD corruption Fumesucker Feb 2013 #12

how does that effect LAPD behavior? BainsBane Feb 2013 #62

LAPD is only the tip of the iceberg, police nationwide are becoming more and more militarized Fumesucker Feb 2013 #67

no kidding BainsBane Feb 2013 #68

No corrupt organization is going to enjoy that national spotlight being shined on it Fumesucker Feb 2013 #69

because of a mass murderer BainsBane Feb 2013 #70

Oderint dum metuant, let them hate so long as they fear Fumesucker Feb 2013 #72

You know there are two other officers nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #13

I don't think so. I think that he just wanted to do both at the same time MrScorpio Feb 2013 #15

You're supposed to love Dorner for murdering US citizens here for no reasons and DevonRex Feb 2013 #17

Yeah, wonder where the right gets their propaganda spin to convince the middle that CAG Feb 2013 #56

who loves Dorner? robinlynne Feb 2013 #60

Nobody has said that it was the only means to expose the LAPD mokawanis Feb 2013 #18

Why? It's as good as a straw-man as any. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #46

He killed because he went off the deep end, morally and psychologically. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #19

Yet another Dr. Frist HangOnKids Feb 2013 #34

No sane person would shoot someone's kid thinking it would advance a cause for justice. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #42

You'd think that is the first thing people would realize. dkf Feb 2013 #65

I wonder if I posted that Baruch Goldstein was lynched what the reaction would be. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #66

Dorner didn't expose ANYTHING that people in Southern California didn't already know. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #20

People in NoCal know LAPD is crooked and dangerous REP Feb 2013 #24

I should have said everyone in California who's paid attention in the last 21 years knows... n/t cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #26

Yep. There was even a very popular TV show about on LAPD corruption Yavin4 Feb 2013 #28

Or, So, Dorner's Only Means to Expose LAPD Corruption Was To Get Killed? Coyotl Feb 2013 #25

His methods were unsound slackmaster Feb 2013 #27

Do you have to be a Dorner fanboy to be allowed to criticize the LAPD? n/t backscatter712 Feb 2013 #43

According to DU's new nannies, yes. I, OTOH, think he was a dangerous person who kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #45

Yep. How dare we show nuance instead of picking sides! backscatter712 Feb 2013 #47

you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette datasuspect Feb 2013 #48

who says he did it to expose the LAPD? Dorner didn't say that. He said "I didn't lie." robinlynne Feb 2013 #51

If anyone thinks his manifesto is the thinking of some one sane.... Historic NY Feb 2013 #61

Dorner is much worse than Allen West. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #63

There was a book written about why the nazis did what they did. robinlynne Feb 2013 #64

No - it wasn't Taverner Feb 2013 #71

Who said it was? Dorner is dead, you'll have to call a soothsayer to have this out with him TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #78