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nadinbrzezinski

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168. Links to each of these assertions please
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:52 PM
Feb 2013

Though for the record I had a young man today in real life compare this to WACO as a method to kill dissidents the evil Feds don't like. Yup, followed the tortured logic, it was just as jaw dropping.

Dorner's con game worked [View all] BainsBane Feb 2013 OP
Can we not recognize and abhor the corruption and incompetence of the LAPD .. ananda Feb 2013 #1
Yes BainsBane Feb 2013 #2
I was pointing that out on other threads, this is a blanket sort of OP I think Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #5
I'm glad you have done that BainsBane Feb 2013 #7
Well yes, you do have a point there. Personally I think its overall a reaction to how much Badwill Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #13
and that is exactly what Dorner was playing on BainsBane Feb 2013 #17
Oh I agree totally. He was very good at milking the hostility to the LAPD Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #19
Call it S.B.C. d06204 Feb 2013 #146
So is it possible to recognize both--that Dorner was a seriously disturbed individual Skidmore Feb 2013 #20
I agree BainsBane Feb 2013 #26
We are. you are interpreting what we say. There is noone here on DU who defends what DOrner did. robinlynne Feb 2013 #186
You are excusing it BainsBane Feb 2013 #190
NO I did not. robinlynne Feb 2013 #192
If I had a heart tblue Feb 2013 #61
Why do you think Dorner did what he did? JDPriestly Feb 2013 #87
I can't recall seeing anyone theKed Feb 2013 #31
I saw none. I saw Duers discussing his manifesto. discussing the LAPd. dsicussing what caused ALL of robinlynne Feb 2013 #56
that you imagine the LAPD caused this BainsBane Feb 2013 #68
You missed the five years in Court. And the other 2 officers who already came forward robinlynne Feb 2013 #75
so you are saying anyone who loses a HR case BainsBane Feb 2013 #81
no. I am not. I am saying people who go through living hell for 5 years come out of it robinlynne Feb 2013 #129
No way BainsBane Feb 2013 #163
and yet that is what person after person who knew him says on tv. and every single photograph. robinlynne Feb 2013 #165
Oh, like the serial killers BainsBane Feb 2013 #166
because he was fired from the LAPD? and in Court against the LAPD? could be. robinlynne Feb 2013 #169
well he was a spree killer BainsBane Feb 2013 #170
He is one now. He was not until a week ago. robinlynne Feb 2013 #176
and, these were murders, cold blooded murders, not like a sniper shooting anyone in sight. robinlynne Feb 2013 #177
a sniper isn't cold blooded BainsBane Feb 2013 #179
I haven't heard anyone that thinks the LAPD is responsible for his action. AAO Feb 2013 #112
The response right below yours. BainsBane Feb 2013 #161
Nothing in my post says the LAPD is responsible for his action. I don't think that. nor does anyone robinlynne Feb 2013 #181
You said the LAPD caused his actions BainsBane Feb 2013 #187
NO I DID NOT. I specifically DID NOT. robinlynne Feb 2013 #189
so don't you think BainsBane Feb 2013 #195
I think the five years is much more likely. no idea though. robinlynne Feb 2013 #203
only you keep saying that. This is your thing. Do you come form an LAPD family/ Something that is robinlynne Feb 2013 #191
No, not at all BainsBane Feb 2013 #194
This is the first post where you seem human. I dont sympathize with Dorner. robinlynne Feb 2013 #204
Your entire argument is based on a DU post? AAO Feb 2013 #221
It's based on a series of posts BainsBane Feb 2013 #222
Yeah, that was a bit of a stretch AAO Feb 2013 #223
Oh Really? bvar22 Feb 2013 #83
I'm waiting too HangOnKids Feb 2013 #94
so you thought BainsBane Feb 2013 #183
+1 robinlynne Feb 2013 #132
+1 beevul Feb 2013 #149
I have provided links throughout this thread BainsBane Feb 2013 #182
I never saw anything at all like that. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #137
Which just goes to show there are crazy people on both sides of the political aisle. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #147
Then you are not looking. robinlynne Feb 2013 #22
Kind of a lame response....................... firenewt Feb 2013 #117
to a "deserving" post. robinlynne Feb 2013 #121
it's because you're only seeing what you want to see.. frylock Feb 2013 #104
There are 27 recs BainsBane Feb 2013 #158
You need glasses. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #106
Then you are seeing the post through fire colored glasses... Taverner Feb 2013 #157
That's my stance, but I've witnessed what the OP is talking about. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #9
That would require nuance - that's a difficult thing! backscatter712 Feb 2013 #29
Spot on! The LAPD has a long history of corruption and abuse of power, DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #46
not only does it not excuse his actions BainsBane Feb 2013 #49
True, however the reality that he is a murderer does not invalidate the long history of coruption DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #53
no, I never said it did BainsBane Feb 2013 #59
Sorry, I miss understood your point. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #77
I'm sure he was full of rage BainsBane Feb 2013 #85
True! The average person would not go on a killing spree because of that DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #91
Nothing explains his actions. They caused the anger which resulted in his actions. robinlynne Feb 2013 #143
you just explained his actions BainsBane Feb 2013 #167
That is the story we know, so far, from the witnesses who knew him on tv. I'm sure we know very litt robinlynne Feb 2013 #175
All information about DOrner's history available up till now indicates that you are incorrect. robinlynne Feb 2013 #138
I dont think you studied psychology, did you? robinlynne Feb 2013 #135
I agree with you. myrna minx Feb 2013 #110
That is exactly how I feel marlakay Feb 2013 #224
Yes, if we're not simplistic idiots. Apparently that's asking too much of some. DirkGently Feb 2013 #228
+1 dlwickham Feb 2013 #3
all of his life is others peoples fault.... ah, a hero. seabeyond Feb 2013 #4
Let me direct you to the Rude Pundit, for he addresses your concerns most admirably. . . Journeyman Feb 2013 #6
It isn't that people can't hold two thoughts. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #11
The impact of LAPD's racism and corruption on him is not an "unrelated fact". kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #115
It may be related, but is irrelevant. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #118
If it's related, it's relevant. And because he is dead and never got the benefit of a trial, kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #171
Know how he could have gotten a trial? Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #201
We knew from the actions of the LAPD in the first days of this, DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #51
Mental health care treatment might stop some of these The Second Stone Feb 2013 #8
I agree 100% BainsBane Feb 2013 #10
I have known people who were extremely depressed because they lost their jobs due JDPriestly Feb 2013 #96
+1 A Little Weird Feb 2013 #211
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #12
i thought I was the only one..... CatWoman Feb 2013 #16
No sweetheart HangOnKids Feb 2013 #69
You aren't. beevul Feb 2013 #151
Hey he's making ice cream out of bullshit hootinholler Feb 2013 #18
Thank you. n/t MuseRider Feb 2013 #40
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Zoeisright Feb 2013 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #79
18 hidden posts! HangOnKids Feb 2013 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #102
18 hidden posts is just so fucking amazing! HangOnKids Feb 2013 #108
I Tried To Read Them HangOnKids Feb 2013 #111
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Feb 2013 #127
The manifesto just grabbed people. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #14
LAPD shooting up trucks full of civilians didnt help much. robinlynne Feb 2013 #210
As I stated in another post regarding Dorner justiceischeap Feb 2013 #15
but some here do BainsBane Feb 2013 #28
Even though yesterday was handled by SB Sheriff's justiceischeap Feb 2013 #33
insanity is an affirmative defense BainsBane Feb 2013 #35
"I have much more sympathy..." justiceischeap Feb 2013 #39
so do I, as a matter of fact BainsBane Feb 2013 #44
Honestly Aerows Feb 2013 #256
and yet when asked to link to these posts where he is glorified & his killings justified, no one HiPointDem Feb 2013 #50
I have provided links to the points I made in the OP BainsBane Feb 2013 #58
a link to yet another OP by *you* is not a link to posters justifying the killings. nadin had never HiPointDem Feb 2013 #64
You aren't paying attention BainsBane Feb 2013 #71
blah blah. you're making lots of accusations and the links you posted don't support this latest HiPointDem Feb 2013 #244
Look at the posts toward the end BainsBane Feb 2013 #250
James Holmes did write some sort of "manifesto" or whatever you can call it. LisaL Feb 2013 #21
he didn't play to the public BainsBane Feb 2013 #36
Dorner was a disgruntled worker who decided on a 2nd amendment solution. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #23
Alex Lanza? ...nt TeeYiYi Feb 2013 #24
Dude, you just have on/off switches. No dimmer, no granular dial... Taverner Feb 2013 #25
You're mistaken BainsBane Feb 2013 #41
Don't Stop The Outrage HangOnKids Feb 2013 #100
You know, Rampart was real nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #27
yes, and . . . ? BainsBane Feb 2013 #32
I see, recognizing the issues nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #37
the issue is separate from Dorner's murder spree BainsBane Feb 2013 #42
The only thing related is that he mentioned well known nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #43
and you repeat them BainsBane Feb 2013 #45
What I am repeating is well known police scandals nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #47
I don't dispute that BainsBane Feb 2013 #52
what you are missing, by at least 8 light seconds nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #55
Why are you going on about police corruption then? BainsBane Feb 2013 #65
Cause I can walk and chew gum at the same time. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #123
Wrong again. zappaman Feb 2013 #229
"NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND wants to have ANY contact with the LAPD" zappaman Feb 2013 #226
You're confusing looking at reasons (motive) with justification... truth2power Feb 2013 #60
yet many here argue BainsBane Feb 2013 #70
"Many here" is a known foxism nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #136
He's just a RW shitstirring troll, IMHO. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #124
Nothing to do with being a troll, RW or otherwise, nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #128
I agree 100%, LAPD is a corrupt organization which abuses it's power and oath to the public. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #86
WTF? I've followed the story on DU, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #30
Others in this thread have seen it BainsBane Feb 2013 #34
BS. Corruption, racism, and excessive force have existed in LAPD for ages. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #48
I agree with that latter point BainsBane Feb 2013 #57
I agree his motivation was revenge, not exposing corruption. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #95
I agree with that BainsBane Feb 2013 #99
You are absolutely right on this. zappaman Feb 2013 #231
Thanks BainsBane Feb 2013 #233
I dislike guns and violence and do not condone his actions. I DO know LAPD are a shit hole Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #38
If I had a heart tblue Feb 2013 #63
What on EARTH are you wittering on about sibelian Feb 2013 #54
everyone who thinks his murders are motivated by police corruption BainsBane Feb 2013 #62
We need a thread like this to tell people to hate and not question? tblue Feb 2013 #66
what are you talking about? BainsBane Feb 2013 #72
Tell that to the blind haters of police. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #74
Where are the people here on DU cheering on Dorner the mass murderer? sibelian Feb 2013 #78
I Want the Same Answer HangOnKids Feb 2013 #113
It never happens. sibelian Feb 2013 #114
The OP has 9 hidden posts HangOnKids Feb 2013 #120
I'm not surpirsed. Nothing but obfuscation. sibelian Feb 2013 #126
But But But they are trying really hard HangOnKids Feb 2013 #130
big NRA fan are you? BainsBane Feb 2013 #219
You have my full permission to project onto me whatever values you may wish to assume. sibelian Feb 2013 #245
and? BainsBane Feb 2013 #154
Gossiping? I've posted what I felt. Guns rights really? HangOnKids Feb 2013 #207
You didn't once post a response to me BainsBane Feb 2013 #213
Did it occur to you I DID not want to talk with you? HangOnKids Feb 2013 #215
No one forced you to enter this thread BainsBane Feb 2013 #216
No one is forcing me to talk with you either HangOnKids Feb 2013 #217
LOL BainsBane Feb 2013 #218
that's one way to establish you have BainsBane Feb 2013 #249
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #119
go ahead and backup your bullshit accusations.. frylock Feb 2013 #125
Nobody is cheering him on. And YOU come live under LAPD and see how badly they kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #139
I'd like an actual link to a post cheering on Dorner. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #148
... sibelian Feb 2013 #67
why the five year delay? BainsBane Feb 2013 #76
What is going on in your brain? sibelian Feb 2013 #88
you are the one who insisted we believe Dorner's writings BainsBane Feb 2013 #92
Do you believe, then, that he had other reasons for his actions? nt sibelian Feb 2013 #101
the timing is instructive BainsBane Feb 2013 #103
OK. sibelian Feb 2013 #107
no, nor do I think justification and reason for acting are the same BainsBane Feb 2013 #159
"nor do I think justification and reason for acting are the same - you evidently do" sibelian Feb 2013 #246
the credence you place in the manifesto BainsBane Feb 2013 #248
So sibelian Feb 2013 #252
enough said BainsBane Feb 2013 #253
"So yeah, you just confirmed you cannot tell the difference between justification and reason" sibelian Feb 2013 #255
I think it might be worth your re-reading my original response to you. sibelian Feb 2013 #257
have you read his letter? hvae you heard the other two policemen who came forward in the robinlynne Feb 2013 #80
You've got screws loose if you don't see a relationship between Dorner's killing spree and kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #131
I think they understand, the OP particularly TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #209
"plausibly ignore any issue the spree murderer mentioned" sibelian Feb 2013 #247
... and I would argue that you've fallen for the PR of the LAPD/police-authority complex. Myrina Feb 2013 #82
I agree LiberalLovinLug Feb 2013 #193
I wished I lived in your black-and-white world. egduj Feb 2013 #84
It's not black and white BainsBane Feb 2013 #89
By your own logic you have fallen for Dorner's con nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #150
I can't begin to understand BainsBane Feb 2013 #162
You are right, but the straw men are getting taller and taller nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #164
One should believe or not believe, based on whether or not that handcuffed man was kicked robinlynne Feb 2013 #198
Just because one doesn't support street justice doesn't mean they support a maniac. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #90
derpy derp derp.. frylock Feb 2013 #93
Yes, actually BainsBane Feb 2013 #98
yes, please do compile a list of each individual poster that believes that.. frylock Feb 2013 #109
So you should post links, as people are asking you to do, because accusing with characterizations Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #141
You just keep right on with that black and white thinking of yours - though it kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #105
I agree BainsBane Feb 2013 #140
Links to each of these assertions please nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #168
not that you'll bother reading BainsBane Feb 2013 #172
One, that could pass hardly makes some, let alone nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #173
that's your response to every example BainsBane Feb 2013 #241
You either have an overactive imagination, or you have been punked by kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #174
here BainsBane Feb 2013 #178
Links to posters who think Dorner's lift was worth more, please. nt RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #116
this thread BainsBane Feb 2013 #152
Theres so much wrong with your argument I almost don't know where to begin. beevul Feb 2013 #160
Links? nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #133
I've provided links throughout this thread BainsBane Feb 2013 #134
To this?: polly7 Feb 2013 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #144
where are the links to the 'many' posts that you claim to have seen? Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #145
I've provided links throughout this thread BainsBane Feb 2013 #155
Linking to entire threads where you agains just say 'some defend' is not what I asked for. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #202
What about the lives of the civilians the cops gunned down KamaAina Feb 2013 #153
it is possible for the police to be corrupt BainsBane Feb 2013 #200
Yes. KamaAina Feb 2013 #205
??? !!! cer7711 Feb 2013 #156
I have taken it up with them BainsBane Feb 2013 #185
I think he actually believed his delusions TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #180
How about two other ex officers nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #208
Now we won't truly know anything. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #184
that's true BainsBane Feb 2013 #188
192 posts; 32 recs... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #196
What's the evidence that he was psychotic? HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #197
If I wrote psychotic, that was in error BainsBane Feb 2013 #199
goggled it. interesting. makes sense. robinlynne Feb 2013 #206
he clearly wasn't psychotic BainsBane Feb 2013 #220
We aren't fucking morons jeff47 Feb 2013 #212
yes and I have said so repeatedly BainsBane Feb 2013 #214
Some people blow goats jeff47 Feb 2013 #235
For those looking for examples of my point in the OP BainsBane Feb 2013 #225
Dorner was a mentally ill man with a grudge, not a con. It wasn't a game to him. PDJane Feb 2013 #227
He brought more attention to how corrupt the LAPD is. Incitatus Feb 2013 #230
One difference I see BainsBane Feb 2013 #232
Another example: BainsBane Feb 2013 #234
Dorner killed innocent people. mia Feb 2013 #236
Yet another example BainsBane Feb 2013 #237
Still beating the same old dead horse; find something else to get your knickers twisted over. PDJane Feb 2013 #238
You ask for evidence BainsBane Feb 2013 #239
Nope. I didn't ask for evidence. PDJane Feb 2013 #240
I agree but there are also many prejudices at work here. great white snark Feb 2013 #242
yes, I had not previously been aware of that BainsBane Feb 2013 #243
Actually, James Holmes does have a fan club. Fawke Em Feb 2013 #251
on DU? BainsBane Feb 2013 #254
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