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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:29 PM

liberal_at_heart (3,954 posts)

48. I agree 100%.

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Pregnant Texas teen files suit against parents in abortion feud [View all]	SpankMe	Feb 2013	OP
I am hoping that your last sentence proves correct.	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2013	#1
In a rational world	Sekhmets Daughter	Feb 2013	#2
It is her body and her choice	bluestateguy	Feb 2013	#3
Husbands also insist. One example, woman takes pill for many years to not have a child as they work.	freshwest	Feb 2013	#59
I know of a case where this type of thing happened in a very LIBERAL marriage.	CTyankee	Feb 2013	#164
I am pro-choice. If this girl wants to keep her baby then she should be able to. However,	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#107
I agree with you in principle	bluestateguy	Feb 2013	#111
That is sad. My son had a child out of wedlock and eventually married the girl. He	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#158
She doesn't necessarily want to keep it	marshall	Feb 2013	#153
If she wants to give it up for adoption that is fine. However, her parents should be responsible	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#156
Why are her parents responsible?	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#160
Totally agree	theHandpuppet	Feb 2013	#161
That's their choice	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#163
Because a 16 yr old is usually still in school and I know that the girls parents always	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#165
That's their choice	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#166
I wasn't talking about 18 yr old. Am talking about 16 yr old who are most likely still	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#167
I'm wondering if she realizes	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#168
I don't know. But good parents will likely take up the slack.	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#169
That wouldn't teach her a lesson	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#172
Well your twin is wise to do that. But you are talking about innocent baby who didn't	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#173
Let me ask you this. What if it were your grandchild? Could you give it up?	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2013	#174
My brother went through this with his girlfriend	Puzzledtraveller	Feb 2013	#4
She should be allowed to have this baby if she wants	ck4829	Feb 2013	#5
And who will support the baby? And new mother?	marybourg	Feb 2013	#10
She could give the child up for adoption	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#14
And what if she doesn't want to do that either?	marybourg	Feb 2013	#16
It's her choice, marybourg!	Fantastic Anarchist	Feb 2013	#53
She needs to put on her big girl pants and support that child herself. If she can't,	kestrel91316	Feb 2013	#98
Yes, yes, and yes. n/t	KarenS	Feb 2013	#103
+1 nt	Selatius	Feb 2013	#154
Then she's going to grow up - very fast	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#159
exactly. judgment is what the right does. We fight for freedom not judgment.	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#15
You have valid points but they still all go with the pregnant teen's CHOICE. nt	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#17
Valid points.	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#21
I wasn't disagreeing with her choice. I was	marybourg	Feb 2013	#24
Forcing her to have an abortion she	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#41
This is not going to be a popular opinion but I believe it is my job to raise	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#43
^exactly this	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#49
Good response. This is what I decided when my 16 yo daughter told me she was pregnant.	Arkansas Granny	Feb 2013	#62
that's the way it should be. I'm glad you have such love in your life.	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#67
I agree with you, popular opinion or not.	LiberalAndProud	Feb 2013	#70
I did not make a distinct choice to raise my unwed teenage daughter's child	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2013	#74
I'm talking about the choice of the parent to have the child (who later ends up pregnant)	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#76
The poster you were replying to was speaking from that angle.	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2013	#79
But	get the red out	Feb 2013	#124
I totally agree. It's why I caution my 14-year-old son quite often.	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#125
+1. Absolutely nt	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#127
"And who will support the baby? And new mother?"	NCTraveler	Feb 2013	#51
You can't allow "social concerns" to outweigh an individuals right to self-determination	Xithras	Feb 2013	#52
Those are certainly all fair questions	bluestateguy	Feb 2013	#60
I will, with my tax dollars.	Iggo	Feb 2013	#69
me too. gladly.	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#72
Me too.	LittleBlue	Feb 2013	#171
Taxpayers. Moral taxpayers, that is.	Zoeisright	Feb 2013	#97
One thing we know for certain	xxqqqzme	Feb 2013	#102
These things are not at issue	treestar	Feb 2013	#116
The choice is hers BUT	get the red out	Feb 2013	#123
not sure what welfare laws are if you are a minor living with parents	JI7	Feb 2013	#130
what about a 16 y.o.s choice to drink alchohol, drive a car own a firearm	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#11
It is HER body	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#50
Then it is entirely incumbent upon this young girl to divorce herself legally from her parents.	KittyWampus	Feb 2013	#63
i said the same thing and was called a republican for it	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#66
So, we should only have children for the good times?	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#82
So, just toss her out?	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#90
I agree with you there	HockeyMom	Feb 2013	#106
Her parents shouldn't be responsible, but they are, legally til this girl is 18 yrs old. nt	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#110
so does that mean if she rode a bicycle without a helmet they could say	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#117
I've already said downthread and upthread I agree with you. nt	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#118
Unless she is declared Emancipated Minor	HockeyMom	Feb 2013	#119
The parents bear part of the responsibility for this pregnancy, IMHO,	kestrel91316	Feb 2013	#108
she doesn't live with her parents it said as much in the article	azurnoir	Feb 2013	#115
I am not disagreeing	tblue	Feb 2013	#92
It is not about a 10 year old, it is about a 16 year old	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#95
I know that.	tblue	Feb 2013	#138
When you force a young woman to do something like this you create great harm	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#141
Of course. Marra_G. I am NOT saying force this woman to do anything.	tblue	Feb 2013	#148
Oh good... I'm sorry that I misjudged what you were saying	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#149
+ 100	Auntie Bush	Feb 2013	#58
Her body her choice.	JaneyVee	Feb 2013	#6
I think it's wrong of the girl's	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#7
If you search elsewhere in your media you will find	dipsydoodle	Feb 2013	#19
This is the point I've always tried to make - that choice thing works both ways!!	SaveAmerica	Feb 2013	#8
hear, hear!	Puzzledtraveller	Feb 2013	#12
Good for her.	MadrasT	Feb 2013	#9
when does a girl become a woman	snooper2	Feb 2013	#20
you'd have to define woman - just so not to be sexist. the same can be said about boy to man	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#22
that's what laws are for right?	snooper2	Feb 2013	#23
im not sure what you mean. the law says you're not really able to make your own decisions	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#27
16 and 17 year olds get jobs, get apartments, and even get tried as adults if they commit	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#29
they get jobs with workers permits (or have they been done away with)	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#33
I have friends who have had babies at 17 and have gone out on their own	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#36
ok but that's not what we're talking about	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#73
If her parents don't want to help raise the child they can tell her to get out	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#77
Actually that's not true. Parents are legally responsible for minor children til they are 18 yrs old	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#86
It happens everyday. I know friends who have been kicked out for being pregnant.	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#89
I understand. But if this child is already seeking legal redress against her parents,	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#96
Maybe. Maybe not. All she is doing right now is suing for the right to have the child.	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#99
Doesn't change the law - the parents are responsible for this girl.	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#109
This message was self-deleted by its author	avebury	Feb 2013	#145
Yep, and I know one who had a baby at nineteen, and	juajen	Feb 2013	#134
So when can a 14-15-16-17 year old decide she wants an abortion	snooper2	Feb 2013	#30
when she's out of the nest and on her own, paying her own bills -	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#37
sorry but that sounds like republican talk to me	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#42
your situation is not the situation being discussed	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#57
You do realize you are arguing for parents to deny a 16-year-old the	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#32
I haven't taken any side in this case...	snooper2	Feb 2013	#35
I realize that...but if you say she has no right to decide to keep the child;	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#38
of course....	snooper2	Feb 2013	#39
There's lots to consider...and terminating a preganncy is not	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#40
+1	Hell Hath No Fury	Feb 2013	#31
She should be able to make her own choice	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#13
but she is not ON her own and HER decision will affect and involve everyone around her	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#26
Some people here seem to forget that very important fact: she is not alone on her own	BlueCaliDem	Feb 2013	#44
agreed	leftyohiolib	Feb 2013	#68
Agreed! I know many women who are raising their grandchildren.	queenjane	Feb 2013	#88
As I said upthread--then perhaps her parents should reconsider their own choice to have a child.	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#46
I agree 100%.	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#56
You don't know that mom (and dad) didn't do that.	Mariana	Feb 2013	#71
A frank talk about the	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#80
And what if during a frank talk	Mariana	Feb 2013	#105
Exactly!	phylny	Feb 2013	#150
+ 5 brazillion	kestrel91316	Feb 2013	#112
+1	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#64
But we deal with them-since we are the adults- we	marybourg	Feb 2013	#81
Sorry, but I didn't have my kids only for the stress-free moments.	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#84
my dad still helps all of us whenever we need help	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#85
And that's his choice	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#162
That doesn't matter	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#47
I agree 100%.	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#48
That doesn't MATTER? How many people are you prepared to support for 21 years without	marybourg	Feb 2013	#83
It is HER choice, HER body, HER choice!	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#93
I gladly pay taxes to help people in these exact situations	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#94
I think you mean 18 years. Once 18, no one has any obligation to him/her anymore.	kestrel91316	Feb 2013	#114
Varies by state.	marybourg	Feb 2013	#120
It does. In TX however, where this case is, it's 18 years old. Other states its 21 yrs old. nt	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#126
There are states where one is NOT legally an adult at 18??? Do tell - link, please.	kestrel91316	Feb 2013	#128
Here's one link that deals with illegal behavior - Nebraska parents are responsible til 19 yrs old	riderinthestorm	Feb 2013	#137
Actually it would be less then two years	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#142
She may be eligible for assistance	Puzzledtraveller	Feb 2013	#55
thank you for the service you provide	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#61
Thank you too.	Puzzledtraveller	Feb 2013	#65
An excellent case of "be careful what you wish for" for the anti-choicers.	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 2013	#25
good for her. How can you force someone to have an abortion?	liberal_at_heart	Feb 2013	#28
This setup smells.	Archae	Feb 2013	#34
So the anti-abortion group is pro-choice.	progressoid	Feb 2013	#45
Her body, her choice. That is what Pro-CHOICE means. nt	Dreamer Tatum	Feb 2013	#54
It is HER choice, just as it would be if she wanted an abortion and her parents opposed it.	NYC Liberal	Feb 2013	#75
Her body, her choice. The situation or group helping her	Dash87	Feb 2013	#78
I have to concur that she should be able to choose whether or not	Proud Liberal Dem	Feb 2013	#87
All legal theories are convenient.	aikoaiko	Feb 2013	#91
Right to choose also means she can choose to have the child	davidn3600	Feb 2013	#100
I have based arguments on this exact scenario against parental notification	loyalsister	Feb 2013	#101
Three very very telling snips from the article that lead me to believe this is BS+	azurnoir	Feb 2013	#104
That's what I got reading this. Completely fabricated bullshit from the anti-choice scum.	Egalitarian Thug	Feb 2013	#121
yep and it sounds as if perhaps the anti-choicers	azurnoir	Feb 2013	#132
Exactly. The republicans and their Corporate Dem allies favorite division issue. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Feb 2013	#136
Pro Choice means it is her choice. But, supporting the child is	kiranon	Feb 2013	#131
sounds more like it'll fall on her Grandparents	azurnoir	Feb 2013	#135
They can't	treestar	Feb 2013	#113
I smell total BS	LeftInTX	Feb 2013	#122
I wonder if her parents	Politicalboi	Feb 2013	#129
Our 17-year old daughter got pregnant	riqster	Feb 2013	#133
The girl does not need an abortion as much as she	avebury	Feb 2013	#139
Denise is the 16 year old girl's mother, not the 16 year old herself	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#143
If the girl decides to give the baby up	avebury	Feb 2013	#147
I have to laugh at the responses in this thread.	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2013	#140
I defend the right to choose	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#144
I'm just constantly amazed	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2013	#146
I do not think those people advocated legal action toward Dugger.	joshcryer	Feb 2013	#151
Actually, they advocated	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2013	#152
If that is so that is unfortunate.	joshcryer	Feb 2013	#155
That personal opinion	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2013	#157
It's her body, her choice. Period	LittleBlue	Feb 2013	#170

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