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NickB79

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29. Like I said, domestic oil and gas is dirty
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:21 PM
Feb 2013

FAR dirtier than, say, Saudi oil or Mexican oil.

How does replacing conventionally pumped oil from a Saudi well with oil extracted from the Bakken reserve, or Alberta tar sands, make things better for the climate?

Have you seen what we're doing in the Bakken fields now? http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2013/01/julia-sklar-reporter.html

Seen in this photo taken by NASA's Suomi NPP satellite, the glow comes from hundreds of flares from rigs drilled into the Bakken formation of North Dakota. The huge amount of unwanted gas being burned off from the production of shale oil creates a light the size of metropolitan Boston.

Bakken is a 360-million-year-old tectonic plate made primarily of shale rock. Fracking has liberated the oil that lies within it, propelling North Dakota to the second-largest oil producing state in the US, behind Texas.

Flaring is a way to burn off excess natural gas during oil production, but the process effectively wastes a natural resource while simultaneously emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. As of 2011, more than 35 per cent of North Dakota's natural gas production was burnt off in flares, according to a study done by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.


How does this further the process of switching to renewables or addressing climate change? Switching to domestic sources of energy may well solve a host of problems, and definitely has merit on that basis, but based on current science, climate change is NOT one of them. This thread was about addressing climate change, not stopping foreign wars for oil.
God also gave us cyanide, Arsenic and sulfuric acid.... WCGreen Feb 2013 #1
Rubio is an idiot. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #4
Good one! n/t ChromeFoundry Feb 2013 #5
"cutting red tape and speeding up new oil and gas permits" Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #2
It was ProSense Feb 2013 #3
If Obama is going to say such a stupid thing as increasing the development Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #6
If you can't ProSense Feb 2013 #7
Yes we are smarter. And less corrupt. grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #9
Then run for President or office. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #10
Will you endorse me? grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #42
Domestic oil and gas isn't better than foreign oil and gas NickB79 Feb 2013 #24
That wasn't ProSense Feb 2013 #26
Like I said, domestic oil and gas is dirty NickB79 Feb 2013 #29
"FAR dirtier than, say, Saudi oil or Mexican oil." ProSense Feb 2013 #31
Oil is oil Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #27
Yes, ProSense Feb 2013 #28
Well, no, really Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #32
No, ProSense Feb 2013 #33
Nope, I don't agree that it can reduce American dependence on imports. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #34
You're evidently ProSense Feb 2013 #35
I'm not sure you have a point Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #36
Oh, I have a point ProSense Feb 2013 #37
I don't really see it. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #38
No, ProSense Feb 2013 #39
No, I didn't. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #43
So Was Obama really talking out the side of his mouth? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #12
F@ck oil and gas permits - they're a dirty and dangerous fuel from a bygone era. grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #8
Sure they are, but I bet you still drive. ProSense Feb 2013 #11
No, bicycle to electric train. grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #17
Good for you. Maybe the President ProSense Feb 2013 #20
How bout we compromise on a $5/gallon gas tax for renewable infrastructure? grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #41
Besides, our oil is sold on the open market - there is no law that guarantees US oil MUST be sold in grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #19
What exactly ProSense Feb 2013 #21
We are not "reducing dependency on foreign oil" if our oil is sold overseas, on the open market. grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #40
In other words it's drill baby, drill, MadHound Feb 2013 #13
I was mad at my Democrats for not applauding more when he talked about wind and solar. Overseas Feb 2013 #14
He supports fracking which is an enormous and immediate threat to the evironment. cali Feb 2013 #15
Not only do we have a President willing to use the term "Climate Change". raouldukelives Feb 2013 #16
If you think they'll nix Keystone XL, I've got a bridge for sale NickB79 Feb 2013 #25
Then ACT NOW, because the House won't do jack shit. maxsolomon Feb 2013 #18
"Climate hawk"???? Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2013 #22
Good one. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #23
Many good things can be truthfully said about the President. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #30
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