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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:57 PM

WTF is so "special" about Dorner & the LAPD, that unleashes Attack-Trolls on DU? [View all]

For some strange reason, in this particular case -- of someone going "postal" and going
on a murdering spree -- no one is supposed to have the slightest bit of interest
or curiosity about the back-story involved
: i.e. what the hell was going on internally
at the LAPD that led up to Dorner feeling "pushed over the line" to become a living
nightmare for policemen and their families everywhere?

In EVERY other case, of mass shootings, rogue gunmen (it's always a male it seems),
going on a killing spree, it has been A-OK -- even lauditory -- to carefully inquire into
what led up to this happening, what was the frame of mind of the person who went
off the rails, what was the shooter's relationship like with the institution(s) most
closely associated with his murderous rampage?

When it's a school or post office that suffers from one of these incidents, many legitimate
questions are delved into, as to whether the shooter had any kind of connections with the
school, what the nature of those connections were, how they effected his behavior, etc.

but for some odd reason, those very same questions in Dorner/LAPD care for some odd
reason "out of bounds" as in "nothing to see here - move along or I'll publicly slime the fuck
out of you".

Can someone please tell me why, when someone on DU expresses interest in ANY
of these questions, they are ruthlessly and relentlessly attacked with accusations like
"How can you possibly be JUSTIFYING the actions of this killer on the loose??"
or
some such. Which not only misses the point, but obscures and deflects and discourages
anyone from even "going there" because they don't want to be attacked like that.

This just isn't right.


In another Dorner OP today, someone quotes Rude Pundit pointing out that it is indeed
possible to hold TWO (or more) thoughts at the same time, without ones heads exploding
:
i.e. to abhor Dorner's murderous deeds, and to also want to better understand what led up to
him feeling pushed over the edge" to commit such atrocities. I wish more DUer had the
capacity to do that: hold both of these thoughts at the same time.

Can someone please explain this glaring double standard?

On edit: I removed paragraph about prior OP as it was serving only as a distraction from the
central question I was raising with this OP.

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