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Enrique

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1. we're not using Apache helicopters for targeted strikes n/t

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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:36 PM

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An Apache helicopter fires a Hellfire missile. A drone fires a Hellfire missile. (w/ edit) [View all] WilliamPitt Feb 2013 OP

we're not using Apache helicopters for targeted strikes n/t Enrique Feb 2013 #1

We aren't? WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #2

actually we might be Enrique Feb 2013 #8

Uh... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #3

Yes, we do. All the time. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #55

As far as I'm concerned, there is no difference life long demo Feb 2013 #4

I keep thinking about a scene from MASH-- a pilot is talking to hawkeye, bragging about what niyad Feb 2013 #5

I remember that episode. Made an impression for sure! bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #16

this sums it up right here frylock Feb 2013 #35

No difference. And, those that fire the missiles should be held accountable in a court of law. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #6

an apache helicopter flying over LA would raise some eyebrows tk2kewl Feb 2013 #7

Really? WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #9

You-tube video of apache helicopters flying over LA... Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #10

Actually that did raise a lot of eyebrows at the time Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #14

Technically those aren't Apache helicopters. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #57

The drone is cheaper and more expendable, and all the more likely to be overused and abused. leveymg Feb 2013 #11

The same could be said of every weapon advance. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #24

I would argue that never before has assassination been so cheap, easy and seemingly safe. leveymg Feb 2013 #49

The only thing I can think of is that no US pilot is placed in harm's way when ... 11 Bravo Feb 2013 #12

One of the criticisms of modern warfare, Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #13

Not that it matters their may be one difference...... wandy Feb 2013 #15

and they never, EVER, have to come face to face with the carnage they have engendered. niyad Feb 2013 #41

Our enemies (and we are making more by the day) can far more easily duplicate drones than Apaches Fumesucker Feb 2013 #17

Will, I think it is the human reaction to "no skin in the game".... catnhatnh Feb 2013 #18

I don't like that these are targeted assassinations. rosesaylavee Feb 2013 #19

A quote by Robert E. Lee captures the gist of my opposition. Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #20

A sport is something that cannot be done while smoking. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #21

OK, you made me spit my coffee Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #23

Part of the problem may be that the Hellfire is overkill. Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #22

The smaller one just came online. sir pball Feb 2013 #51

The moral choice would be to send strike teams to capture enemies. joshcryer Feb 2013 #25

maybe if we actually had to send real people, we would be a damned sight more careful about niyad Feb 2013 #43

Absolutely. joshcryer Feb 2013 #46

The only difference between the two weapon systems is that one is operated remotely.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #26

I would think a drone "pilot" could see a lot more than a pilot flying a plane Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #28

Oh, I agree, but.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #29

The pilot doesn't shoot based on witnessing "crimes" in progress. The pilot shoots Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #38

Some objections and reasons against drones quinnox Feb 2013 #27

Thank you, I was going to look for this but you already posted.... Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #36

thank you. would you consider reposting this as its own thread so it can be rec'd? niyad Feb 2013 #45

you can, it isn't my work quinnox Feb 2013 #50

Rachel Maddow had a great episode regarding this on... Little Star Feb 2013 #30

I refuse to accept the necessity of The War on Terror, so I am for neither. mikeytherat Feb 2013 #31

Is the problem truly the drones? hughee99 Feb 2013 #32

I dont buy your logic. The choice isnt either drones or 150 k troops. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #33

+1 Union Scribe Feb 2013 #52

It's about secret kill lists and turning the entire planet into a battlefield whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #34

A 24/7 terror campaign. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #37

Chris Hayes on the "no-alternative" fallacy for justifying drones Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #39

+ 1,000,000,000... What You And Chris Hayes Said !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #40

Brilliant. Thanks for posting that. nt Union Scribe Feb 2013 #53

they were both used to murder dorner? arely staircase Feb 2013 #42

The latest argument r.e. drones doesn't center on drones v. helicopters DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #44

For the civilians none. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #47

Yawn, it's not REALLY about drones. Bonobo Feb 2013 #48

I don't like either.. stillcool Feb 2013 #54

Theme song for this discussion: "Send in the Drones" Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #56