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Fire Walk With Me

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3. Much of it is regarding CISPA, which was resurrected and voted upon without warning just days ago.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:50 PM
Feb 2013

The very limited article to which you link does not mention the dangers of this bill, of the twice-signed NDAA (indefinite detention of US citizens without trial or representation, google "NDAA section 1021" or "NDAA indefinite detention&quot , or PFC Manning having been held in torture conditions for 1,000 days for whistle-blowing on war crimes, or that the US is killing people in five or more countries via weaponized drones, countries with whom we are not at war, with 178 or more children dead from strikes in Yemen and Pakistan alone, much less the adult civilian casualities.

Things are horribly wrong in this country and none of it appeared on any election ballot so that the people could decide. Activists filled the streets demanding change and were beaten and arrested (7400+ Occupy members) and there has been zero change regarding the issue Occupy brings to light. Zero banksters arrested for nearly bringing this country into the second great depression. Why?

"Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word 'tension.' I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth....

The purpose of our direct action program is to create a situation so crisis packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation. I therefore concur with you in your call for negotiation. Too long has our beloved Southland been bogged down in a tragic effort to live in monologue rather than dialogue.

First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: 'I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action'; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a 'more convenient season.' Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

~Martin Luther King, Jr.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/01/mlk-and-the-peace-process.html

Controlling the internet to protest controlling the internet arcane1 Feb 2013 #1
They are far from "controlling" the Internet. kentauros Feb 2013 #35
That is beyond their capabilities. They have a big bag of parlor tricks... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #55
That's been my impression of them pretty much from the start. kentauros Feb 2013 #59
I'm with you on this... arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #2
I'll join you. HappyMe Feb 2013 #6
I love your hair on fire guy.. arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #9
The minute I HappyMe Feb 2013 #12
yes, hair on fire guy is cool, i just saved it for special occassions arely staircase Feb 2013 #76
Much of it is regarding CISPA, which was resurrected and voted upon without warning just days ago. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #3
I agree there's a larger and important issue they say they're advocating here bigtree Feb 2013 #15
Martin Luther King, Jr. has words on this subject. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #22
+++++ :) RainbowSuperfund Feb 2013 #24
never knew MLK to advocate anything like this bigtree Feb 2013 #25
So you're okay with CISPA, the NDAA, the TPP...and citizens shouldn't protest what is abhorrent? n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #32
how foolish of you bigtree Feb 2013 #37
I'm attempting to address what you've listed as being concerns, I'm not attempting to argue Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #47
well, I think your post was as baiting as the hacker's intent bigtree Feb 2013 #52
I've been involved in an unpleasant post war in another thread against my better judgement, Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #56
Protest all you want. RudynJack Feb 2013 #38
CISPA and its ilk do not appear on any ballot. The people do not get to vote on such things. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #46
So your answer RudynJack Feb 2013 #48
Have you read my link to the ACLU description of this monstrous legislation? Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #50
We're not discussing the legislation. RudynJack Feb 2013 #61
The people have fought this through the system, and momentarily won. Now they're sneaking it back Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #62
At what point is the SOTU address ours and not theirs? randome Feb 2013 #63
Then you should totally start a thread on it! RudynJack Feb 2013 #66
Despite Protests, Congress To Bring Back CISPA Exactly As It Was Last Year, While Obama Signs Exec O Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #51
Who voted on it a couple of days ago? And what did they vote on? onenote Feb 2013 #45
You have a google button on your computer as well as I, but I'll indulge you: Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #49
Thanks for confirming that it hasn't been voted on. Its only being reintroduced tomorrow. onenote Feb 2013 #73
I stand corrected. I was mistaking last year's vote for one very recent. n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #74
At the beginning I supported them Drale Feb 2013 #4
Same here. We have 3 RW cranksters working on disrupting the SOTU. Nugent, Rand, etc. freshwest Feb 2013 #23
+1 I agree SlimJimmy Feb 2013 #27
Stuff like this is just not helpful to them. libtodeath Feb 2013 #5
It's a risky move for them. Xithras Feb 2013 #7
Only if they replace the live feed with some message that brings attention to issues arcane1 Feb 2013 #10
Not necessarily Xithras Feb 2013 #14
If I saw something other than HappyMe Feb 2013 #17
This was predictable. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #8
I have to say I like it Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #11
"Democracy" translates to "the will and voice of the People". It's not Democracy if "they" Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #13
I'm trying to imagine how a group unaccountable to most Americans bigtree Feb 2013 #18
The powers that be aren't listening (or, they are, if you know about HR347). Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #20
I'm with you on that Fire Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #26
Then we don't live in a democracy. They rarely listen to "We, the people". AAO Feb 2013 #70
Here is an ACLU report on CISPA, which everyone should be upset about. Please read if you don't know Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #16
I think this group forfeits the expectation that someone should heed their concerns and dialog bigtree Feb 2013 #21
The ACLU is ProSense Feb 2013 #54
I believe some Anonymous channels have posted that CISPA's re-emergence is enough in itself. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #71
Too bad no one owns televisions anymore Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #19
"anti-democratic" with a small "D"? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #28
I prefer this assembly to the alternative bigtree Feb 2013 #31
The alternative is a parliamentary system Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #40
Tsk. Tsk. How dare people express their dismay at having their freedoms curbed. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #29
it would be like you obliviating my posts bigtree Feb 2013 #33
See 1st Amerndment for reference. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #34
one can forget that within those rights bigtree Feb 2013 #41
Are you talking about the suppression of speech by the NDAA or by the protesters? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #43
degrees bigtree Feb 2013 #44
Nice straw argument. How about something more honest? nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #57
Smells like another "roll up" to me. MADem Feb 2013 #30
ROGER THAT MADem! dreampunk Feb 2013 #69
odd how DU loves anonymous until it interrupts the great dems PR machine lol nt msongs Feb 2013 #36
funny bigtree Feb 2013 #42
Or, how DU loves them unless they act like assholes. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #58
Do you really laugh out loud at your own comments? Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #68
'Anonymous' is not a group with motivations SecularMotion Feb 2013 #39
The Electronic Frontier Foundation has done more for Internet freedom in a legal way. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #53
There ya go! kentauros Feb 2013 #64
Anonymous has overstepped its bounds with this. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #60
Agree with you. I'm usually a supporter of theirs, but this is stupid and childish. gateley Feb 2013 #65
Anonymous is a lawless reaction to authoritarianism. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #67
I am of the mind that it is a highly "lawful" recruiting agency run by MADem Feb 2013 #72
so i'm not gonna get to see it? thanks, anonymous assholes! arely staircase Feb 2013 #75
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