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In reply to the discussion: Dorner admitted to killings, targeting lesbians for being 'misandrist' and defended Chick Fil-A [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)143. The person said that we don't know that he's guilty, and won't know
because the authorities are going to murder him.
You are innocent until proven guilty. Period.
In this day and age, we applaud torture, the killing of children, and the creation of the police state.
I hate to use the word sheep, because it would be unfair - to the sheep.
Just remember,before you all saddle up your high horses; I would support th same rights if it was you who stood accused. That is the point; if you deny him his rights, you are also denying you own. If he is guilty, let him be tried as the law requires.
Of course, we all know that won't happen. This man has no chance of surrender. He will be shot on sight.
I just think it is unreal how many people just turn their back on what is right, just so they can get their "indignation " on. Yes, due process is what is right.
Don't worry,though. You all will get the blood you crave. And as a bonus, you won't have to think too hard....
In this narrative, Dorner is being unfairly convicted by a bloodthirsty public, and will be murdered by authorities before he can get due process and a chance to clear his name.
Poor Chris Dorner
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Dorner admitted to killings, targeting lesbians for being 'misandrist' and defended Chick Fil-A [View all]
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
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He'd best not at any time, under oath or not, if he wants the prosecutor not to bring it up.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#110
I was wavering on Dorner until you mentioned Chick-Fil-A. That's a game changer.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#15
If what the presumed guilty writes abolishes their legal presumption of innocence prior to trial,
Occulus
Feb 2013
#19
Irony is this entire vendetta is because he refutes being found guilty of being a liar
dkf
Feb 2013
#137
presumption of innocence is a legal concept. No one is saying that Dorner shouldn't have
cali
Feb 2013
#25
NONE of which justifies his extrajudicial killing by any LEO. ALL accused in the US are
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#36
Well, let me tell you that the law does not allow for fugitives to claim due process rights
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#55
Yes, which isn't a "blaze of glory" like the other poster was talking about. (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2013
#47
Please use linear arguments. Now just what are you (anonymous person I've never
shcrane71
Feb 2013
#71
Point being, if you don't have any opinion as to whether he killed anyone, logically
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#75
What I believe is that there needs to be a trial in a court of law.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#76
OJ Simpson caused Nicole Brown's death by slashing her throat, but he committed
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#117
Oh, so you don't pay attention to facts unless they've been adjudicated in a court of law?
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#66
I'm saying that we as private citizens are not bound by the rules surrounding
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#74
I'm not convicting him. I am looking at the facts. The presumption of innocence applies
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#85
The law does not require private citizens to abstain from forming a factual belief
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#86
We, so that the system can truly work ,must not rush to judgment.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#121
People who don't know all the facts, and we will not know all till a trial, are.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#124
And I am glad to know my way is seen as right due to 2 great documents.n/t
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#147
You are completely, 100% incorrect re: trials, jurors, and the general public.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#114
Wow. He is sicko. He thinks that murdering will vindicate him. Makes no sense. Filled with hate...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2013
#73
He is the "alleged murderer" because he is innocent until found guilty by a court
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2013
#80
Legally, I agree. But there are people accusing those who state that he did kill those
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#99
Dorner is one of the bad guys in this story. A stone cold killer who needs to got to trial.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#130
But you sure seem to be defending LAPD. Not a critical word toward the cop in my story, not a
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#140
It's definitive only if you're determined to put words in people's mouths.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#145
I put no words in your mouth, nor did you. It was your lack of words, your silence that I find
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#157
I do agree strongly, It just seems so obvious that it goes without saying.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#158
This is a discussion board and not a trial, in case you missed that salient tidbit.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#109
Dorner is mad because he is was found guilty by a court of lying about Evans kicking Gettler.
dkf
Feb 2013
#144
The court found there was not sufficient evidence to overturn the administrative decision.
morningfog
Feb 2013
#164
Yes, yes you're right, the real victim here isn't Monica Quan, it's Chris Dorner.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#134
Characterization. We can read what others write. Upthread you accuse me of putting words in
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#155
And it was that passivity and silence that I found objectionable. Yet you claimed I put words
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#165
Talk about putting words into the mouth of another. When response fails you, you accuse others.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#170
Yes, you say something and then try to grade the responses because they did not
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#171
If you hate this guy and assume he killed them (because of his own admission)
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#136