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Democracyinkind

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76. My granddad in October 2001:

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:04 AM

Feb 2013

"Then years from now, people will have to come to face the fact that the Soviets, overall, we're more succesful in this utopian folly"...

He always was quite the prophet. He also predicted that I would witness people paying corporations for their own excrements. (We have lively debates about this prophecy.. I always argue that the advent of pro-biotic yoghurts validatesthe prophecy..)

Anyway, I wish the people of Afghanistan will get a fair deal somewhere along the line. Surely, it must be their turn too, once.

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Astonishing Pictures Of Afghanistan From Before The Wars [View all] rug Feb 2013 OP

k and r--thank you for posting this niyad Feb 2013 #1

That is so sad to see what war does. libtodeath Feb 2013 #2

Yep, there's big money in the MIC, ask any defense contractor, it's all about $$$$$ and war RKP5637 Feb 2013 #32

A sad reminder of how civilization can collapse anywhere mainer Feb 2013 #3

Uhhh, greiner3 Feb 2013 #10

no, it was already stone age by the time we got there...... lastlib Feb 2013 #78

It wasn't the Russians and the US who put women in burkhas mainer Feb 2013 #83

Or when a CIA coup overthrows the government and establishes an extremist theocracy. Initech Feb 2013 #45

Hi Initech. truedelphi Feb 2013 #66

Yes, neoliberal foreign corporate extremists. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #59

like the USA, where the bi-partisan consensus is deep foundational support of a global empire Mutatis Mutandis Feb 2013 #74

More chilling than astonishing, and it's mountain grammy Feb 2013 #4

Let's not forget intervention from without.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #20

Oh yes, there's much more to Afghanistan than the Taliban mountain grammy Feb 2013 #34

And no doubt that the same is true here.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #43

First they'll come for the athiests, no wait, the gays, no wait, the mooslims, mountain grammy Feb 2013 #63

Anyone not white.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #85

Well said! And, sadly, we have those types trying to gain power in the US gov. at many levels. Way RKP5637 Feb 2013 #33

My in laws said if I voted for Obama, I wasn't a Christian mountain grammy Feb 2013 #41

Yep, "Idiocracy." n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #49

Shit, I went to a private religious school NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #53

You know what? You're right! I had lots of friends attending Catholic schools in the 60's mountain grammy Feb 2013 #55

My Catholic school was pretty progressive NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #60

Many years ago I had a good friend who was a Jesuit priest. Very progressive. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #64

There are quite a few progressive Catholics who want to change the church from within eridani Feb 2013 #70

Same with Iraq in the 60's. Baghdad was a cosmopolitan city considered the Paris of the Middle East. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #5

They had free higher education. We can't be having that go on. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #18

I think it was actually Beirut that was considered the "Paris of the Middle East" Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #89

We need our awareness raised duhneece Feb 2013 #6

This is what happens when people join the military. nt valerief Feb 2013 #7

Exactly, stay out of the military at all costs, do NOT enlist for this bullshit. WalMart pays more. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #19

Don't be silly. Occupy Wal-Mart. nt valerief Feb 2013 #35

I'm not recommending, just sayin'... xtraxritical Feb 2013 #82

Those mountains in the background, did they just rise snooper2 Feb 2013 #8

They're in the first one, too. polly7 Feb 2013 #9

Mostly blocked by the trees ThoughtCriminal Feb 2013 #11

Easier to get to all those yummy minerals now.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #12

Without all the buildings and people in the way kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #14

those rare earths dreampunk Feb 2013 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author dreampunk Feb 2013 #24

Yeah but, aren't they better off now.... JeffHead Feb 2013 #13

. Go Vols Feb 2013 #28

Wiping out the past...... Historic NY Feb 2013 #15

K&R SunSeeker Feb 2013 #16

K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #17

Saddam, Shah of Iran, etc etc, all American stooges put in by the CIA dreampunk Feb 2013 #21

Their old way of seeing themselves - "Afghanistan: The Friendliest Country in the World" bhikkhu Feb 2013 #23

Wow. Women used to be allowed to dress like that in Afghanistan, Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #25

Indeed, my first though about that pic was about the women. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #65

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, one of our prized 80s "freedom fighters" eridani Feb 2013 #71

Here are some pictures of Iran chicago guy Feb 2013 #26

Rick Steves - Iran Mnpaul Feb 2013 #77

Had the Taliban and Al Qaeda entered Afghanistan yet? JDPriestly Feb 2013 #27

due to the wars Enrique Feb 2013 #42

The Taliban rose to power after the Soviets left. Ashgrey77 Feb 2013 #51

I remember some Kick Ass Afghan hash in the 70s awake Feb 2013 #29

There's a whole lot of the "war on drugs" that mountain grammy Feb 2013 #37

Well said awake Feb 2013 #39

I dunno, Western Europe and Japan did pretty well under American protection. Flatulo Feb 2013 #80

The Marshall Plan was a progressive and effective effort mountain grammy Feb 2013 #81

The Marshall Plan worked so well that most Flatulo Feb 2013 #86

Yep, sad but true. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #88

Still smoking it! Webster Green Feb 2013 #56

Ya but does it have that indent of a official seal on the brick that the Afghani Hash used to have? awake Feb 2013 #58

Heh. Webster Green Feb 2013 #61

Yep, war bringing more peace to the world. More wars, more guns, yep, that'll fix it all. RKP5637 Feb 2013 #30

Dubya And The Neocons Quest For Oil Destroyed All cantbeserious Feb 2013 #31

I'm reminded of this tribute I created for Bush Oilwellian Feb 2013 #36

Powerful, and well done. polly7 Feb 2013 #40

Thank you polly Oilwellian Feb 2013 #50

Theocracy sucks. Christians take note upi402 Feb 2013 #38

The late ConsAreLiars had beautiful photos of Afghanistan from the '70s. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #44

Aww ... that's very sad news. polly7 Feb 2013 #46

He was a good man Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Feb 2013 #48

I remember him. Bryn Feb 2013 #84

I've actually seen a few pictures of what it was like Warpy Feb 2013 #52

Amazing. And more sad than anything else. NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #54

If you've lived there and are of a certain age Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2013 #57

does anyone know the animal in picture 54? AnotherDreamWeaver Feb 2013 #62

Here's a video. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #67

That poor country:( polly7 Feb 2013 #69

this is just so sad. mamayo Feb 2013 #68

just a bit of history dhol82 Feb 2013 #72

And the pictures are Kodachromes. Liberal In Texas Feb 2013 #73

I suspect you could have seen something similar everywhere we've destroyed a country... Sancho Feb 2013 #75

My granddad in October 2001: Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #76

K& R n/t Dalai_1 Feb 2013 #79

Set up by Joseph Stalin himself happyslug Feb 2013 #87