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47. the ability to catch him using normal means

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:14 AM

Feb 2013

While the LAPD is making a mockery of the notion that this man can be found and arrested, that doesn't mean he can't be found and arrested. He can be. He isn't in Pakistan or Yemen where we don't have people able to arrest him.

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What is the salient difference between Dorner and a terrorist? [View all] Bonobo Feb 2013 OP

Good questions. Who is a terrorist? How do we know? JDPriestly Feb 2013 #1

If that doesn't illustrate the slippery slope, I don't know what does. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #2

Terrorists tend to target civilians Warpy Feb 2013 #3

Maybe, but I don't see how that could stand up legally as the difference. Bonobo Feb 2013 #6

I would think people who are not connected to the LAPD Warpy Feb 2013 #9

Absolutely true. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #55

But we have hit many civilians even though our military assures us we are hitting only JDPriestly Feb 2013 #53

Terror is terror. It could be terror on one person or hundreds. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #4

Dorner has a potential for 2A political correctness because he is a "hero" 1 man militia. nt patrice Feb 2013 #5

Inciting a "movement"... Bonobo Feb 2013 #7

Well, I think some of this stuff is already there, just waiting for opportunities to, at minimum, patrice Feb 2013 #12

Except that he railed against easy access to guns in his manifesto. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #40

The LAPD is one step ahead of the game already Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #8

If Dorner is a terrorist, LAPD are trigger-happy maniacs with zero concern for the public welfare Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #10

Bonobo, you obviously know nothing about LAPD. They are out of control and self-oriented. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #11

Dorner being a killer doesn't make the LAPD heroes Scootaloo Feb 2013 #13

There is an issue occurring of extreme disproportion. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #17

Do you consider Dorner a whistleblower or a murderer? nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #51

Money. Glassunion Feb 2013 #14

terrorism bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #15

Any sort of libodem Feb 2013 #16

You do realize that one of the FBI's own definitions of terrorism, Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #18

weren't bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #41

Oh dear...where to begin... Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #43

None. He's causing terror by his actions. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #19

So then he could be killed on sight on the order of the POTUS. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #20

Dormer can in no way be linked to 911 in any way. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #21

Good point. Bonobo Feb 2013 #23

Being a Muslim isn't relevant to the Authorization to use force. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #32

Quite right, but it would be vastly easier to draw a line between the two... Bonobo Feb 2013 #34

Except that your argument doesn't make sense. He isn't a muslim and he isn't a terrorist. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #36

That was why I used the conditional "if" form. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #37

Nice find. The hyperbole surrounding this drone poutrage is unfounded. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #25

Wanted, Dead or Alive FarCenter Feb 2013 #22

Kind of pokes holes in the fiction some are pushing about ALL Americans being vulnerable... nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #24

Far too many here are not paying attention to the increasingly fuzzy definition of "terrorist" Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #45

The federal government has no jurisdiction treestar Feb 2013 #26

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Obama doctrine apply only BlueStreak Feb 2013 #27

No, you are correct. Bonobo Feb 2013 #28

I'll try to answer BlueStreak Feb 2013 #31

An excellent reply and I completely agree. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #33

And, I believe, only in a declared emergency can the US military deploy domestically bhikkhu Feb 2013 #44

Huge difference, actually. The DoJ white paper... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #29

I addressed that in #28 above if you are interested. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #30

I've read it, and as I've noted several times previously, in my opinion, this is a false equivalency FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #39

Dorner does not have to do anything more. LAPD Downwinder Feb 2013 #35

Somehow I get the feeling that 2naSalit Feb 2013 #38

The definition of terrorist doesn't fit. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #42

there is none... dtom67 Feb 2013 #46

the ability to catch him using normal means dsc Feb 2013 #47

How was the Sniper dealt with ? there have been suspected terrorists in the united States caught JI7 Feb 2013 #48

With a broad definition of terrorist, any criminal could be labeled one. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #49

A police/law enforcement sniper can shoot this guy on sight possibly. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #50

every indication d_r Feb 2013 #52

The fact that he's in the US (presumably) makes a huge difference Recursion Feb 2013 #54