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19. Owners bear responsibility for negligence

Reply to Fumesucker (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:19 AM

Feb 2013

let's get systems in place that make that a reality.

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2nd Encounter of the Day.... Over guns this time [View all] rsmith6621 Feb 2013 OP

Bet the gun nut was cursing under his breath knowing he was owned libtodeath Feb 2013 #1

Great story and you are making a good point! MindandSoul Feb 2013 #2

Liability insurance doesn't cover inanimate objects. It covers the insured PERSON for screwups. slackmaster Feb 2013 #3

Actually, In Many States, The Insurance Covers The Car ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2013 #11

Ugh. Logic fail on a Sunday no less. The insurance isn't covering the CAR galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #26

Don't know if this applys every where/allways......... wandy Feb 2013 #33

You can't be held liable for the illegal act of another galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #71

I wondered about that... wandy Feb 2013 #87

Say You Own A Honda Civic, And You Have Insurance.......... ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2013 #75

Sigh. Tell you what. I'll give you a car, you insure either the car or you. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #77

Maybe Learn A Little About The Law, Or At Least Smarten Up ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2013 #79

I oversimplified the concept of vicarious liability which I assume is what galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #81

I Never Said Anything About Guns ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2013 #84

It dependens on the insurance policy... wandy Feb 2013 #88

Excellent education you gave him there - hope he'll pass it on. freshwest Feb 2013 #4

Just to make sure... of what? geckosfeet Feb 2013 #5

Was wondering the same. Go Vols Feb 2013 #12

Great work. klook Feb 2013 #6

Insurance (and lawsuits) are a very potent angle BlueStreak Feb 2013 #7

This. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #8

All true. That's why I think it might be a successful move to build a fund to pay lawyers BlueStreak Feb 2013 #9

The Goldmans won because kudzu22 Feb 2013 #35

If you don't have your guns locked up tight, YOU are responsible. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #69

I couldn't disagree more kudzu22 Feb 2013 #85

Leaving your gun on a table where your 3-year-old can blow his brains out is a CRIMINAL ACT BlueStreak Feb 2013 #86

Cool story bro. Glassunion Feb 2013 #10

Exactly!.. but probably ended more like this.... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #17

So, if I own a gun... krispos42 Feb 2013 #13

If My Car is... rsmith6621 Feb 2013 #14

Can't escape the logic of this marions ghost Feb 2013 #18

As a gun owner, I believe this is true. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #20

Very few accidents with guns, I agree Fumesucker Feb 2013 #16

Owners bear responsibility for negligence marions ghost Feb 2013 #19

So I should pay for some kind of insurance for.... the rest of my life? krispos42 Feb 2013 #23

Are you maintaining that you do not wish to be held responsible for any possible negligence? Fumesucker Feb 2013 #24

Um, yeah. krispos42 Feb 2013 #27

Hey, you buy your ticket and you take your chances Fumesucker Feb 2013 #30

Except that cars are different from guns krispos42 Feb 2013 #73

Cars also hurt and kill people and insurance covers that Fumesucker Feb 2013 #74

Comparative negligence. It's not a new concept. Robb Feb 2013 #45

I'm not tracking. wercal Feb 2013 #80

So if you forget your lighter at a restaurant kudzu22 Feb 2013 #37

Felons and children are prohibited by law from owning lighters? Fumesucker Feb 2013 #38

You're changing your story kudzu22 Feb 2013 #39

Just pointing out one major difference between guns and lighters Fumesucker Feb 2013 #40

I don't know any store that will sell a lighter to a 6 year old kudzu22 Feb 2013 #42

Is it illegal for a six year old to possess a lighter? Fumesucker Feb 2013 #46

Can a six year old start a fire? kudzu22 Feb 2013 #48

If your firearm is adequately secured you have no liability under my scenario Fumesucker Feb 2013 #49

Same for your lighter kudzu22 Feb 2013 #50

Why do the manufacturers put serial numbers on guns and not on lighters? Fumesucker Feb 2013 #52

Target shooting is not Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #43

The term I referenced was "practical use" Fumesucker Feb 2013 #47

I live in a very poor county in north Florida. Hunting deer and hog is very common here. ... spin Feb 2013 #83

You're braver than I BainsBane Feb 2013 #15

Ahh. The "I will let someone else do the dirty work for me" position. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #21

someone who doesn't feel safe without a gun BainsBane Feb 2013 #22

With concealed carry laws maybe the prudent course would be Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #55

or just behave like a normal person BainsBane Feb 2013 #56

Wait a minute. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #57

where did I say that? BainsBane Feb 2013 #61

Well Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #63

I said I would not accost him BainsBane Feb 2013 #64

Who said anyhting about accosting? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #65

I explained myself BainsBane Feb 2013 #66

He never brandished his gun. The OP says he was reaching for his wallet to pay. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #68

you go from one tangent to another BainsBane Feb 2013 #70

What tangents? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #72

I lived over 50 years without a gun. I am not paranoid. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #58

no police or politicians are disabling or disarming anyone BainsBane Feb 2013 #60

For dogs sake don't go out and play vigilante. And I have a grip, so to speak. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #67

I Would Have Left The Store otohara Feb 2013 #25

I hear that nt. BainsBane Feb 2013 #31

I carry a gun in public Oneka Feb 2013 #29

what are you afraid of? BainsBane Feb 2013 #32

Afraid? Really? Oneka Feb 2013 #36

the rights trope is a canard BainsBane Feb 2013 #41

Nothing preventing Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #44

prescribed ways BainsBane Feb 2013 #59

who is "our" Oneka Feb 2013 #78

The state already makes hunting licenses for certain guns. Deep13 Feb 2013 #28

Twice in one day?!?!?! zappaman Feb 2013 #34

Your courage is commendable, but I'd be cautious: most "RKBA enthusiasts" I've run across have apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #51

KICKING! patrice Feb 2013 #53

What state did this happen in? indie9197 Feb 2013 #54

Maybe your screen name should be fgump6621 nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #62

I'm curious... why did you buy the rifle ecstatic Feb 2013 #76

Simply Target Practice... rsmith6621 Feb 2013 #82