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This week's news that Richard's body has been positively identified got me reading up on the War of the Roses.

Some thoughts:

- This was a war where high nobles and even kings personally fought in the battles. Nasty, backstabbing bastards that they were, they did put their own a$$es on the line.
- It was not good to be on the losing end left on the battlefield after the fight, especially if you were a noble or royal. Neck, meet axe - right there on the bloody battlefield.
- It's hard to keep track of just how many times Warwick, Clarence, and so many other characters switched sides and stabbed each other in the back.
- Edward IV, despite his reputation as some sort of halfway decent monarch, murdered poor King Henry VI
- Yes, Richard had the two princes murdered
- Henry VII and his goddawful Tudor line - with the possible exception of Elizabeth I - were murderous squatters
- Richard's supporters, up through today, claim that his historical reputation as a monster has been due to Tudor-inspired propaganda, such as Shakepeare's Richard III, and that you can't trust most of the Tudor contemporary history written about him. However, the positive identification of his remains is entirely consistent with what the Tudor "propagandists" wrote concerning his death: that Richard was killed in battle, that he was buried in a Greyfriars unmarked grave, clothes removed, and that he had a serious back deformity.

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