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longship

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7. I think this guy has had this planned out.

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:01 PM

Feb 2013

I think the cops will assume that he's gone to ground. And I think that there's a good possibility that that's exactly what Dorner wants them to think.

Something tells me that this guy's not going to make too many mistakes and that he has some strategy, and counter-strategies in play here.

I will bet my bottom dollar that Big Bear was a diversion.

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Chris Dorner has vanished and he may be armed with shoulder-fired missiles and a .50 caliber rifle [View all] Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 OP

Unless you or a close family member are named in his manifesto, or LAPD, I wouldn't worry too much. Electric Monk Feb 2013 #1

Yeah, like the dead Riverside cop, huh? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #13

Fine, you can panic if you want, but I think you're being paranoid to do so. Electric Monk Feb 2013 #15

that's a great toon 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #106

good toon! oldandhappy Feb 2013 #110

The real concern is the lead that the LAPD throws into the air when they sense his presence. eom Blanks Feb 2013 #17

I'm certainly not worried. If I ran across him, I'd give him a kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #39

You would give someone who murdered three people Zoeisright Feb 2013 #66

Why is it dumb?? What would YOU do, confront him angrily kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #72

You are so very kind for calling me stupid. Congratulations. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #76

You are so self-righteous. I'd recommend you review the story of coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #80

Staying calm and talking works sometimes in certain situations. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #102

It's better to piss off an armed fugitive? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #88

Bravo! If you have a chance, re-aquaint yourself with the story of coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #81

Bet He Is Nine Foot Tall By Now, Sir: Hell, Maybe He Is invisible, Able To Regenerate Limbs.... The Magistrate Feb 2013 #2

And possibly farts green fire. politicat Feb 2013 #28

I am so flashing on Emmanuel Goldstein (of 1984 fame) right now. - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #82

Anything is possible, especially rumor-mongering sensationalism on the part of 'journalists'. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #114

Hey! He's just standing up to a tyranical government like the 2nd says he must! Patriot!111!! nt flamin lib Feb 2013 #3

Yup, yup! freshwest Feb 2013 #18

Exactly rightsideout Feb 2013 #71

I'm not looking forward to the opposing killing each other, though... freshwest Feb 2013 #89

It's reassuring to know weaponry like that is available to ordinary citizens TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #4

We don't know he has such weapons. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #83

manifesto claimed a .50 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #109

Tnx, I didn't read it. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #115

You're probably right about the missile launcher. 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #117

His manifesto says he has it. You can either believe it or not. LisaL Feb 2013 #122

Oh, his manifesto says he has the launcher too? 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #131

Yes, it is an interesting story. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #123

Missiles are definitely not available to ordinary citizens Recursion Feb 2013 #107

Oh my! I demand drone strikes against ALL suspected locations!!! nt Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #5

LA schools closed today, I believe nt flamingdem Feb 2013 #6

I think this guy has had this planned out. longship Feb 2013 #7

Agreed. Heimer Feb 2013 #8

He actually tipped his hand by saying he was going to wage 'asymmetrical warfare'. One tenet coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #85

I think he had a getaway vehicle prepositioned there. And kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #43

I agree that he's got something like that. longship Feb 2013 #55

I've been thinking about that. beevul Feb 2013 #104

Could be that an axle shaft broke, not the housing. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #126

I think so too. 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #111

Might be armed with a shoulder-fired missile launcher. rdharma Feb 2013 #9

I doubt that hes shooting 5 inch long bullets dizbukhapeter Feb 2013 #10

Have you seen the bullets that go into a .50 cal rifle like a Barrett? backscatter712 Feb 2013 #11

The cartridge is about 5 inches long; the bullet is far shorter. FarCenter Feb 2013 #12

What's he need that big thing for? Distance or big game? Seems like overkill, either way. freshwest Feb 2013 #19

Distance. And anti-material purposes. ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #23

Why would a civilian need this? Bears? Buffalo? Shooting metal (cop cars, etc.) not a civilian use. freshwest Feb 2013 #24

The most common civilian use is long distance shooting... ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #25

It's easy to see with his manifesto that the PD and others have reason for concern. Whatever occurs, freshwest Feb 2013 #32

He's not a civilian. He's in the reserves. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #45

He is in the military obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #54

I thought the reserves kicked him out over this, that's part of his reasoning. freshwest Feb 2013 #60

His last day was Friday obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #63

Um - but he had already lost his security clearance. freshwest Feb 2013 #65

Prior to 1965, the National Liberation Front in Vietnam was pretty much armed coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #87

Yes I know what a .50 BMG looks like dizbukhapeter Feb 2013 #74

Fine, let me be more precise. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #93

Yeah? And how long is the projectile - you know, the bullet. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #79

Overall length of the .50BMG round is about 5.5" rdharma Feb 2013 #14

I don't think the laws are something this particular subject cares too much about right now. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #26

What you mean is that .50 caliber rifles can only be owned by criminals. indie9197 Feb 2013 #27

He is in trouble. The woods he is hiding in will not Cleita Feb 2013 #16

Wow, this is a little like the movie First Blood maybe R B Garr Feb 2013 #20

Oh, movies? Cleita Feb 2013 #21

It's just that Dorner's move to go the mountains reminded me of that movie R B Garr Feb 2013 #22

It doesn't make sense that he would burn his method of transportation unless he had another one. indie9197 Feb 2013 #29

Those are pretty much my thoughts too. ellisonz Feb 2013 #31

I thought the same thing... KansDem Feb 2013 #99

They've conducted a pretty thorough search... ellisonz Feb 2013 #100

Why is the desert a better spot that the mountains? nt flamingdem Feb 2013 #36

Because I know and I think he knows. n/t Cleita Feb 2013 #56

Is it a secret? nt flamingdem Feb 2013 #58

No secret. Know the territoryl. Cleita Feb 2013 #62

So you're saying it's easier to know the territory? flamingdem Feb 2013 #64

A problem. Cleita Feb 2013 #67

The trees work both ways ellisonz Feb 2013 #101

I've seen this play: "Send In the Drones." WinkyDink Feb 2013 #30

Nope. The clowns, maybe. freshwest Feb 2013 #48

And those who haven't, will soon see it. And just in the nick of time! n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #75

"Don't bother, they're here." n/t appal_jack Feb 2013 #97

"The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio" Catherina Feb 2013 #133

YA, right. And if he has a platoon of people to carry all that shit he's golden. cliffordu Feb 2013 #33

It was stated by someone in the LAPD that he had the shoulder fired flamingdem Feb 2013 #34

I still believe they are lying about the shoulder fired rocket. cliffordu Feb 2013 #37

Someone turned one in in the Oakland gun exchange last month nt flamingdem Feb 2013 #40

I saw that - IIRC that was just a used tube, not the explosive flying part. cliffordu Feb 2013 #42

Ah. Wonder why the LAPD said that flamingdem Feb 2013 #44

You assume they have any credibility to lose? X_Digger Feb 2013 #47

I remember when the police chief said he wanted to use a flamethrower on Slauson flamingdem Feb 2013 #49

It was a disposable rocket-launcher tube krispos42 Feb 2013 #119

Dorner said he has man-poratble air-defense system in his manifesto. LisaL Feb 2013 #121

rude comment necessary I suppose flamingdem Feb 2013 #124

Yes, I took time in order to be able discuss it. LisaL Feb 2013 #125

The "Light 50s" weigh 30 pounds or less. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #38

OK, then I'm 15 lbs off. cliffordu Feb 2013 #41

I don't know to be honest. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #46

I though about one for a while until I realized there aint anyplace to shoot the damned thing within cliffordu Feb 2013 #52

Wow! You Did That Grueling Bike Ride? Kudos! Congrats! HangOnKids Feb 2013 #105

I carried my battalion's .50 for a hot minute Recursion Feb 2013 #113

Agreed -- definitely no rocket launcher obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #59

I am guessing Daninmo Feb 2013 #35

The truck he abandoned had a broken axel. Seems like this was unplanned flamingdem Feb 2013 #50

I thought about that, too, regarding the axel R B Garr Feb 2013 #57

Yes, why bother. That may be because he's manic flamingdem Feb 2013 #61

Or maybe he wants to mobilize more LEO and emergency vehicles R B Garr Feb 2013 #68

Maybe he's channeling his 'Burn, baby, burn' mojo :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #90

Another auto stashed seems likely with all that ammo and baggage R B Garr Feb 2013 #51

Yes, I saw mention of small, white car, on the way to Nevada, perhaps. He has property there, maybe. freshwest Feb 2013 #73

Do you think playing this out alone will work? He's got to get food, water, fuel, etc. Unless he was freshwest Feb 2013 #53

Correct.. he is out there on his own... lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #69

Oh, we're allowed to ask and argue - but not go on a killing spree. freshwest Feb 2013 #70

Navy Seals, The Russian, Israeli, English equivalent cliffordu Feb 2013 #78

"...his ex-girlfriend said he was paranoid and thought people might be out to get him."....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #84

But in her view, it was not justified, or she would have said so, no? freshwest Feb 2013 #86

True, but she might not have known of the details........ socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #91

Yep, old Henry Kissinger knew what he was talking about with that one. Folks are still after him... freshwest Feb 2013 #92

Apparently he got a restraining order against that girlfriend Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #94

False. LisaL Feb 2013 #95

OK thanks Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #96

Five-inch long bullets geckosfeet Feb 2013 #77

He's living out the right-wing extremist fantasy Hugabear Feb 2013 #98

To me, you bring up a valid point...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #112

And he's finding out that nobody is rallying to his side krispos42 Feb 2013 #120

I hope they get him soon davidpdx Feb 2013 #103

He must be one strong dude to lug that kind of stuff around slackmaster Feb 2013 #108

He certainly looks to be a very strong dude. LisaL Feb 2013 #116

I hope he's carrying both of those things krispos42 Feb 2013 #118

It Would Be One Helluva Load, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2013 #127

The twit feed I'm watching says two long range rifles, a glock, and cold weather gear bemildred Feb 2013 #128

It would be advantageous to all involved, sir... krispos42 Feb 2013 #130

I heard his mother was one of the teachers and the truck was rigged.... rgbecker Feb 2013 #129

This is gut-wrenching case Shankapotomus Feb 2013 #132