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obamanut2012

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153. James Randi just posted an article about this!
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:52 PM
Feb 2013

Recently, Dr. Mehmet Oz, the cardiologist who accepts “reiki” and “evening-out the human body’s energy aura,” announced his acceptance of homeopathy, possibly the most thoroughly tested quack medicine claim, ever; it has failed every double-blind, legitimate, scientific set of tests to which it has been subjected. In November 2002, I offered the JREF million-dollar prize to the UK homeopaths if their claims could pass an extensive test based upon the protocol designed by Dr. Jacques Benveniste [1935-2004] -- a major supporter of homeopathy -- supervised by the Royal Society, the Royal London Hospital, University College, London, and Guy's Hospital, and witnessed by the homeopaths themselves. The results were quite negative, but Dr. Oz has chosen to accept this weird idea, and endorsed it on his site. Comments immediately poured in on his website for his “Homeopathic Starter Kit”…

I took just the first 25 responses to examine. Two of them – falsely – asserted that the negative comments were being deleted, though for all I know, that might have been done, at first. Of the 25, there were nine that were in favor of Oz’s new woo-woo factor. Of those 9, five were from homeopathic “doctors” or from persons connected to “alternative” healing agencies, and two offered Dr. Oz “blessings.” There was one that I still haven’t figured out – #21, and the rest – 12 – ridiculed both the show and Dr. Oz.

Here they are, in order:

All the negative comments are being deleted. I suppose that the relative dilution of the negative comments will only make them stronger?
When a doctor tells you to take medicine with no active ingredients, it's okay to question the motives of that doctor. Just so you know.
Homeopathy is at best quack medicine and at worst potentially life threatening if taken in place of genuine medical treatment. Dr. Oz should be ashamed of himself for promoting this and in my opinion should be struck off the medical register for ignoring the first rule: “First, do no harm “. Homeopathy causes a great deal of harm.
See how your comment (and mine) gets deleted!
Jelly Beans are more delicious, and you can have a good witch doctor enchant them at half the cost. A fractional solution of atoms in a water pill isn't medicine. Investigate "peer reviewed medicine" and save your money. One can only hope the FDA discredits you and your snake oil before more people suffer while you sell them magic healing.
Seems the snake oil salesmen will never go away.
Homeopathy = water. LOLOLOLOL!
I knew Oz was a joke, but this is ridiculous. Homeopathy is one of the biggest jokes in history. LOL. Fools. Good for a laugh anyway.
Dr OZ - stick to what you know. Don't peddle overpriced water. If homeopathy worked, we'd have to recognize we are all surviving on urine.
Absurd! Sylvia Browne next?
A timely and important show to inform the public about the value of homeopathy for healing the body, mind and spirit. Very thankful that Dr Oz supports this form of medicine for his family and his audience. We appreciate having expert guests on in this field and that people can take basic steps towards healing and learning about fundamental remedies in every day ailments. Blessings, Debby.
Thirsty anyone? Homeopathy is known to cure thirst. Of course, why wouldn't it, if it's really nothing more than water?
Dr Oz thank you for your program on Homeopathy. I as a homeopathic doctor really appreciate like many others your courage to air such a program. May be in future shows you can continue to bring in Homeopathic doctors from all over the world to share their experiences. Congratulations. (from an “alternative school” in Calcutta)
is there a book/site that tells whats best for who? they touched a bit about it on the show, i kno sum things work different for sum people...im really interested in transitioning
No, I think what you'll have to do is take a medical degree. Homeopathy is a dangerous scam.
Homeopathic remedies are just water with no active ingredients and no therapeutic value, unless you are thirsty.
Wow, as usual, I learned so much. Thank you for having homeopaths on your show that were clear on what homeopathy actually is and practical ways to use it for myself and my family. I've been very interested in homeopathy and am excited to hear more successful remedies that it is used for, especially those ailments that traditional medicine doesn't have any answers for. I'll be ready for the next show.
Think about that for a minute... if traditional medicine does not have an answer, could it be because the answer is complex, the illness little understood? Do you really believe that medical science has not looked at these "cures" and found them useless. Save your hard earned money. Don't buy into this pseudoscience just because it's promoted by a handful of people with degrees. Do some research, and you'll find many feel that homeopathy is no better than placebo, if that.
Wonderful to see homeopathy presented here! Next shows might include using homeopathy for more chronic ailments where it also can offer benefit!
Yes, I agree with Dr. Khan, thanks to Dr. Oz for the courage to do this show on homeopathy!
If you have questions about homeopathy check this out!
You're the man Dr. Oz, thank you for coming out, glad to know that there are a few good men around after all... God bless you.
homeopathy is considered the first alternative healing after allopathy, by World Health Organisation (Davar’s College of Homeopathy, Mumbai, India And please note: “Allopathy” refers to all modern medical means other than homeopathy. Thus, this commenter is saying that orthodox medicine comes first in efficacy, followed by quackery!)
Amazing show. Thank You for your support for homeopathy. It heals at the deepest level by catalyzing the innate healing responses our body has. (Holistic Health Practitioner)
Thank you Doctor Oz for posting about homeopathy. It is a medicine that changed my life. I found out about it by accident, and I can say because of it, I am very healthy today. (posted by The Four Winds Society, a group of shamans preaching ancient Inca healing ideas)


Count on it, Dr. Oz will not be fazed in the least, and will continue to promote this nonsense from his TV pulpit…






http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2014-homeopathy-again-strikes-out-in-style.html

People often buy things that statistically cause them more harm than good. Robb Feb 2013 #1
Perhaps, but homeopathy is proven to be false. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #3
Applying common sense to either would save lives. Robb Feb 2013 #6
Maybe, but I want to bring attention to the scam that is Homepathy. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #12
I appreciate your efforts to help educate people. eShirl Feb 2013 #67
Agreed, these terms are not interchangeable. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #69
So your point is to decry what a 'sham and scam' homeopathy is. icymist Feb 2013 #215
Really? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #233
I'm not sure, But I am sure of what it isn't; science based medicine. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #244
Homeopathic medicine is water. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #276
Look now. I don't really care what you guys think. icymist Feb 2013 #299
+1! bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #300
Respect? You want respect for ignoring reality? Really? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #301
umm. a belief in god defies reality. but I still respect people who believe in god. robinlynne Feb 2013 #302
I too, respect people who believe in a god. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #303
Yes, I see that A LOT on here obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #126
That's what I always thought. Good to know. cui bono Feb 2013 #242
That's not true, as far as I know. Modern medicine is derived from homemade plant medications Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #305
...a LOT of cayenne pepper. Hardly homeopathic. SwissTony Feb 2013 #306
I think that you may be mistaken on what "homeopathy" actually is. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #308
But But But... "Water has mem'ry!!!!" Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #2
Agreed. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #4
"Molecular memory" has caused me more bruised foreheads than any other phrase Recursion Feb 2013 #7
A mean prank just came to my mind: DetlefK Feb 2013 #10
I was just going to write something about oceans and pissing ;) Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #31
Aha! But that's not what homeopathy says. longship Feb 2013 #32
Not to mention the whole problem of "in some patients" MattBaggins Feb 2013 #98
I've been studying the history of homeopathy in America - it's actually rather fascinating derby378 Feb 2013 #5
Didn't the "pro-science" wing turn into osteopathy? Recursion Feb 2013 #8
Osteopathy grew out of the chriopractic movement, I think derby378 Feb 2013 #11
It is quite fascinating. And the way people have been duped into believing it works is not unlike cleanhippie Feb 2013 #13
I'm always on the lookout for someone proposing a return to humorism. FSogol Feb 2013 #9
We read Galen in college. It's actually kind of fascinating Recursion Feb 2013 #14
I'll do you one better: Trepanation name not needed Feb 2013 #279
Heh-heh from Wiki: FSogol Feb 2013 #286
Anyone here used Arnica Montana to control swelling after surgery? Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #15
I think that would be considered "natural" medicine, not homeopathy. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #16
There are homeopathic preparations of Arnica Montana. Heidi Feb 2013 #19
I would feel differently about an extract of AM, but any Homeopathic version is cause for alarm. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #20
Exactly. Heidi Feb 2013 #21
Good morning to you, Heidi! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Heidi Feb 2013 #40
There are homeopathic preparations of dog shit... SidDithers Feb 2013 #86
What is that supposed to treat? Incontinence? eShirl Feb 2013 #91
! Heidi Feb 2013 #164
Agreed timdog44 Feb 2013 #255
You treat Republicanism with it? jmowreader Feb 2013 #252
Nailed it!...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #260
A Friend Used Only AM After Surgery otohara Feb 2013 #197
I had a coronary bypass two summers ago MattBaggins Feb 2013 #214
I have used Arnica bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #54
Do you have a double blind study to support the claim MattBaggins Feb 2013 #181
Nope, sorry.. bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #188
Not even remotely MattBaggins Feb 2013 #192
You obviously need a blind study bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #199
This is about Science MattBaggins Feb 2013 #208
What exactly do you mean bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #258
I did not mean like that MattBaggins Feb 2013 #262
no obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #227
I've used it on my foot Retrograde Feb 2013 #177
Try it- you might be surprised! ellaydubya Feb 2013 #278
I use arnica Dorian Gray Feb 2013 #288
I use homeopathetic eye drops. Atman Feb 2013 #17
Could you not get the same result from using a saline solution instead? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #18
I don't deny that it seems goofy. Atman Feb 2013 #23
I agree with your disdain of chemicals in Visine. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #28
you are now giving medical advice JanMichael Feb 2013 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2013 #39
Not only have I been at DU since almost JanMichael Feb 2013 #44
Who cares how long you have been here or who you know. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #48
you deleted it, but you accused me of "trolling" JanMichael Feb 2013 #53
No, you made an inference, I implied no such thing. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #59
You wrote "go troll another thread." Of course you are "done." JanMichael Feb 2013 #63
Good for you! Thank you for your opinion, I appreciate it. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #65
+1 green for victory Feb 2013 #73
Discussing the relative merits of OTC products is not kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #99
He knows that. Most would recognize ridiculous comments like that for what they are. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #105
ahhhh there's that word again JanMichael Feb 2013 #108
Never denied using the word "trolling." cleanhippie Feb 2013 #112
you most certainly did. The problem is that you did not delete JanMichael Feb 2013 #116
Yawn. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #118
You are aware as a Feline Veterinarian that the term "medical advice" JanMichael Feb 2013 #113
Ok, thank you for your concern. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #120
You would rather drop a chemical in your eye than drop a chemical in your eye? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #26
What is confusing you? Atman Feb 2013 #34
Mercurius sublimatus in similason dry eyes remedy MattBaggins Feb 2013 #42
Are you reading the same website I am? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #56
Yeah, that was kind of my point. Atman Feb 2013 #70
I have a degree in biology MattBaggins Feb 2013 #76
Ahh, I see. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #78
The point is MattBaggins Feb 2013 #85
I agree, but don't you think people are implying a slightly different meaning? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #102
You Are Much Nicer RobinA Feb 2013 #140
What do you care bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #58
Homeopathy is not just some innocent form of CAM MattBaggins Feb 2013 #83
So everything that is FDA approved bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #88
bzzzzt... wrong answer MattBaggins Feb 2013 #90
Yea, way to avoid the question.. bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #92
It wasn't a true question MattBaggins Feb 2013 #95
Your "question" is ridiculous and deserves nothing more than what it got. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #107
I didn't realize that diluted opiates weren't chemicals CreekDog Feb 2013 #51
To be fair, in a homeopathic application, there would be no chemicals at all. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #52
Water's a chemical in itself... derby378 Feb 2013 #80
Very true! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #101
It also rots pipes and fish make love in it. That's why I won't drink it or put it in my eyes. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #316
Can I suggest a little lemon? (n/t) derby378 Feb 2013 #317
What difference does it make to you? JanMichael Feb 2013 #22
I always wait for the next shoe.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #24
No kidding...we are the two biggest skeptics we know JanMichael Feb 2013 #29
You think homeopathic medicines are less likely to use mercury? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #45
Well, they are less likely to use ANYTHING at all. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #49
Agreed. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #30
Yep...the language, tone etc. just screams JanMichael Feb 2013 #33
I know. What's the harm? longship Feb 2013 #37
Adults are free to choose which treatment to use. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #226
Arrogance? longship Feb 2013 #265
It can be scary when one of your family members choses homeopathic over traditional medicine liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #43
And that is incredibly sad. However, his decision JanMichael Feb 2013 #46
Incorrect MattBaggins Feb 2013 #109
Lots of people "use my tax money" (god, that is JanMichael Feb 2013 #143
We only have so much money to use and can't afford to waste it on crap MattBaggins Feb 2013 #149
"WE only have so much money...." JanMichael Feb 2013 #173
You have no interest in an honest assessment of Homeopathy MattBaggins Feb 2013 #176
really. My wife was a paramedic, and is now a librarian JanMichael Feb 2013 #180
Unlike you I support the role of the FDA MattBaggins Feb 2013 #183
and how in the world did you get that JanMichael Feb 2013 #190
You were making things up MattBaggins Feb 2013 #194
I haven't made anything up. I have stated repeatedly JanMichael Feb 2013 #207
Don't read them then MattBaggins Feb 2013 #209
+1 bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #154
How do people make decisions without information? Silent3 Feb 2013 #264
I don't care how people spend their money. I do care that ignorant people are being scammed. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #309
"Frankly, people who use them are not harming you, so what is the issue? " cleanhippie Feb 2013 #36
at least two of us here knew you were going to bring up vaccines JanMichael Feb 2013 #38
Ok. Thank you for your opinion. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #41
Lying about medical properties of your product is inherently harmful. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #133
Labeling is required on all the packages JanMichael Feb 2013 #184
Because I hate the propagation of stupidity in our society Scootaloo Feb 2013 #196
OK JanMichael Feb 2013 #202
There's a world beyond DU Scootaloo Feb 2013 #212
I think we should realize the same is true of baptism (and holy water if catholic) Dragonfli Feb 2013 #292
What in the world makes you think I draw an exception for religion? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #304
You are on the money MattBaggins Feb 2013 #204
It's not a matter of not harming people personally. Dash87 Feb 2013 #240
And fake "medications" *do* harm people, anyway. Posteritatis Feb 2013 #291
It's not harming you that cleanhippie keeps bring this up, so what's the issue? Orrex Feb 2013 #271
No, I use herbs and nutrition. I went to a homeopath once, when I was like 22, and Zorra Feb 2013 #27
Why not? Gold isn't going to hurt you MattBaggins Feb 2013 #47
You'd be safe. Homeopathic gold solution is like all other kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #100
hahahahaha obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #128
So to keep things interesting (since some posters don't want you to talk about this)... randome Feb 2013 #50
LOL (n/t) athena Feb 2013 #228
Capsasin/Cayenne pep. diluted with cold cream for the feets. Apply 3X in 1 hour with socks. ahhhhh. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #55
Do you make that yourself? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #57
Yes. 1 teaspoon red pep to 1 small jar ponds cold cream (not the big un.) :) lonestarnot Feb 2013 #60
Sounds interesting. Ill give it a try. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #61
Removes inflamation. Careful with the insteps, they are more sensative. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #62
Thank you for this me b zola Feb 2013 #129
You are welcome dearie. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #281
That doesn't sound like a homeopathic "medicine" to me. eShirl Feb 2013 #64
Whatever. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #66
Just wondering why it's posted in a thread about homeopathy? eShirl Feb 2013 #68
Keep wondering then. Why are you shitting on this thread? lonestarnot Feb 2013 #71
I'm not. Why are you shitting on me? eShirl Feb 2013 #72
If you mix up some crap yourself and you can't by it, it's homeopathic by my definition and you lonestarnot Feb 2013 #75
I know. WTF. eShirl Feb 2013 #79
Maybe a less controversial word for what you prepared would be "home remedy", not homeopathic? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #121
WTF, indeed, you are arguing because you cannot be bothered to learn what homeopathy means....? xocet Feb 2013 #235
You probably won't want to sell cars for a living then. What? I have to look up homeopathic to lonestarnot Feb 2013 #282
My problem isn't with you, or with people who buy & use homeo products knowing what they're buying. eShirl Feb 2013 #284
I see. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #294
No, what you have to do is read the OP - the definition is there muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #289
I did and I dilute red pepper with cold cream. I don't call myself walgreens. So there is an lonestarnot Feb 2013 #295
If you prefer your ignorance, please continue. n/t xocet Feb 2013 #313
You apparently prefer being annoyed. Have at it pal. I can help you if you like. Snort lonestarnot Feb 2013 #314
He's actually right. That's a home remedy, not homeopathy. Dash87 Feb 2013 #296
You know that feeling in your throat you get just before a cold? randr Feb 2013 #74
A tincture is not the same thing as a homeopathic "remedy." cleanhippie Feb 2013 #77
Did you test this to make sure you were not just experiencing MattBaggins Feb 2013 #89
That proves nothing. athena Feb 2013 #222
The amount of ignorance on this thread is astonishing to me Nancy Waterman Feb 2013 #81
Thank you.. bama_blue_dot Feb 2013 #84
This is exactly why homeopathy should be declared illegal MattBaggins Feb 2013 #93
You do know that in a 30C potency, there's not a single molecule left in the solution?... SidDithers Feb 2013 #96
Wow. While ignoring the basic laws of mathematics, you accuse others of being ignorant. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #103
I agree - I use homepathy womanofthehills Feb 2013 #106
"If you have never tried homeopathy, why put it down so vehemently." Because it is bunk bullshit. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #110
Works big time at what? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #125
I drink a Reed's Ginger Reed obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #135
Who is this Doctor? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #169
Well, water IS hydrating, and the placebo effect is real obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #132
Please look at the evidence before your favoured treatments kill again intaglio Feb 2013 #219
I buy my arnica in a cream and rub it on my boo's .... MindMover Feb 2013 #267
Take these things into consideration: Dash87 Feb 2013 #297
Also, many, many, many people get Homeopathic mixed up with Naturopathic... SidDithers Feb 2013 #82
And the defenders appear in 3 - 2 - 1 GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #87
Thank you!! GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #136
I prefer to use science and doctors to cure what ails me. Apophis Feb 2013 #94
They are sold at Whole Foods by people with dreadlocks and Che Guevara t-shirts Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #97
Winner! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #104
Homeopathy is 100% unmitigated bullshit. No question. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #139
Latte sipping arugula munchers demanding abortions on their way to a save the whales pot rally! Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #134
LOL laundry_queen Feb 2013 #171
The real question to me is what to do about it. Should it be illegal? DanTex Feb 2013 #111
I do not have the answer to that, but there certainly IS harm. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #114
Is there any quantifiable evidence of the harm that homeopathy causes? DanTex Feb 2013 #122
"What is harmful is when people forgo actual medical treatments and use homeopathy instead" cleanhippie Feb 2013 #124
Is it illegal to mislabel a product or lie to consumers about what a product does? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #127
I would assume there has to be some disclaimer on the packaging about how the claims are not tested. DanTex Feb 2013 #147
Right there under drug facts MattBaggins Feb 2013 #152
"According to homeopathic principles"... DanTex Feb 2013 #163
which go away on their own, can be sold without a prescription MattBaggins Feb 2013 #167
"marketing that preys on the ignorant" laundry_queen Feb 2013 #172
You know, I'm open to that idea! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #174
Yes. It's a scam... SidDithers Feb 2013 #115
It's kind of a scam, but also kind of not. DanTex Feb 2013 #123
They lie to the consumer about what "ailments" it will relieve MattBaggins Feb 2013 #131
People claimed turn-of-the-20th-century patent medicines helped, too Posteritatis Feb 2013 #293
I drink close to a gallon of water a day, so yes obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #117
+1 cleanhippie Feb 2013 #119
Why Does Homeopathy Attract So Much Controversy? dooner Feb 2013 #130
Award for most bullshit study of the day MattBaggins Feb 2013 #141
There is no controversy over the efficacy of homeopathy. None. At. All. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #162
Did you even READ the nonsense contained on the link you provided? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #166
Even if it's placebo... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #137
Because it turns the ignorant away from real medicine, and in the end, that harms us all. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #148
Excuse me... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #182
Then it needs to be clearly labeled as such: PLACEBO EFFECT. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #191
That would be enough to keep it from working! JuniperLea Feb 2013 #243
Uh, because "People do know what they are taking"? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #248
That argument makes no sense. Dash87 Feb 2013 #298
That's the whole point. It's essentially faith healing, marketed as herbal remedies. eShirl Feb 2013 #151
Placebo effect is real... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #186
You are simply not correct MattBaggins Feb 2013 #218
Con artists selling people the power of their own minds = $$$ eShirl Feb 2013 #224
Same goes for any worthless gadget in the world JuniperLea Feb 2013 #247
As long as people KNOW what they're buying (a "worthless gadget" or "voodoo") fine. eShirl Feb 2013 #259
I partly agree with you. DanTex Feb 2013 #221
Placebos may need regulated too... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #245
Homeopathic medicine is energy medicine. Most Americans don't understand that...it is clear here. libdem4life Feb 2013 #138
Energy medicine... lol MattBaggins Feb 2013 #142
Energy medicine? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #145
Ahahahahaha.... SidDithers Feb 2013 #146
I see what you did there AngryAmish Feb 2013 #155
OMG obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #160
The key word - Anecdotes - And Energy Medicine? Really? GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #217
Simple yes or no... Does HiV cause AIDS? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #273
I thought I was corresponding withan intelligent being. My bad. Are you for Fu## real? libdem4life Feb 2013 #274
I asked you for your opinion on the virus and said nothing about homosexuality. MattBaggins Feb 2013 #275
AIDS and Iatrogenic death statistics??? This is not about some guy's junk. Get a life, Dude. libdem4life Feb 2013 #277
Why are you done? MattBaggins Feb 2013 #280
I'm a huge believer in naturopathy or herbology, but homeopathy is 100% BS n/t librechik Feb 2013 #144
Naturopathy is as woowoo as homeopathy MattBaggins Feb 2013 #165
And no homeopathy thread is complete without Mitchell and Webb... SidDithers Feb 2013 #150
James Randi just posted an article about this! obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #153
How funny! I just posted it! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #156
lol obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #161
I try to minimize my use of French but "Doctor" Oz is a fucking idiot. MattBaggins Feb 2013 #157
He is a highly respected cardiologist obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #158
No, that's all a buncha hogwash! But my crystal skull really works! Blecht Feb 2013 #159
Love it... SidDithers Feb 2013 #168
Woo medicine ruins lives Prism Feb 2013 #170
+infinity MattBaggins Feb 2013 #189
Reminds me of the days when doctors who washed their hands were considered Quacks. libdem4life Feb 2013 #175
You make good points, but when it comes to homeopathy, I think the verdict is in. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #178
I respect your opinion, but it flies in the face of mine and many other's experience. libdem4life Feb 2013 #193
Stop trying to use Europe to bolster homeopathy MattBaggins Feb 2013 #213
Just depends on who you choose to read. All the Medical Associations are trying to get rid of it. libdem4life Feb 2013 #220
No it does not work no matter how you use it MattBaggins Feb 2013 #223
Thank you for the sane post. zappaman Feb 2013 #229
Confusing.. MattBaggins Feb 2013 #210
First an idea is laughed at, then it is studied, then it is accepted as truth libdem4life Feb 2013 #225
The answer to the problems in medicine MattBaggins Feb 2013 #232
Accupuncture? Are you kidding me? Kaiser Permanente pays for it. libdem4life Feb 2013 #234
Bullshit they don't pay for things that don't work MattBaggins Feb 2013 #236
Homeopathy is not handwashing jmowreader Feb 2013 #257
Hylands remedy for colic costs a couple of bucks. Get off your hysteria and ask a parent with a new libdem4life Feb 2013 #266
Sugar water works and you have the stuff for that jmowreader Feb 2013 #283
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers... SidDithers Feb 2013 #261
Okey dokey. Please, proceed... libdem4life Feb 2013 #268
Translation: you are wearing the floppy shoes. n/t xocet Feb 2013 #310
Iatrogenic Deaths are Rampant...but I don't knock or mock Modern Medicine.It's just not all there is libdem4life Feb 2013 #179
I don't understand what that has to do with homeopathy. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #185
You don't!? JanMichael Feb 2013 #187
For someone who thinks that time on DU and knowing the admins lends credibility cleanhippie Feb 2013 #200
All these dire warnings about the danger of homeopathy ...these are figures of the dangers of libdem4life Feb 2013 #195
Indeed, and homeopathy plays a part in those numbers. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #201
I don't see where any other method would significantly contribute. libdem4life Feb 2013 #216
But we agree! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #246
Education, yes. I don't know about safer...it's worked for me and mine for decades. libdem4life Feb 2013 #270
The statistics are of iatrogenic deaths...conditions the patient did not have when they began libdem4life Feb 2013 #231
Of course homeopathy could be involved. MattBaggins Feb 2013 #237
I am sorry to be so harsh but so far MattBaggins Feb 2013 #238
That's OK...I don't take it personally. I've had this conversation many times. Mostly friends and libdem4life Feb 2013 #250
This goes beyond that MattBaggins Feb 2013 #253
By definition...the people didn't have the condition they died with BEFORE entering the medical libdem4life Feb 2013 #241
Perhaps that word doesn't mean what you think it means. MattBaggins Feb 2013 #254
Don't argue with me...it's statistics. It's your own folks reporting this. Not the "wackos". libdem4life Feb 2013 #269
By the way did the unibomber write that site? UPDATE numbers are BS MattBaggins Feb 2013 #272
Comes off a bit pompous oberliner Feb 2013 #198
Perhaps, but it is effective. And factual. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #203
Rubbed me the wrong way oberliner Feb 2013 #205
Dawkins seems to have that effect on many. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #206
Ben Goldacre would be a better choice MattBaggins Feb 2013 #211
I like his writing better than his videos oberliner Feb 2013 #239
Water. With memory. Taverner Feb 2013 #230
IT'S GOT WHAT HOMEOPATHS CRAVE! n/t xocet Feb 2013 #311
I use homeopathic remedies all the time and they work great jmowreader Feb 2013 #249
+1!!!1 cleanhippie Feb 2013 #251
Excellent! obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #263
If you make it JNelson6563 Feb 2013 #256
Holy crap. Off topic, but I begin to see how some people get such high post counts.... Thor_MN Feb 2013 #285
agreed! eShirl Feb 2013 #287
Not really off topic. It is the fact that companies prey on the ignorant, and keeping them ignorant cleanhippie Feb 2013 #290
Here is an example of the reinforcement of the ignorance of the masses.... xocet Feb 2013 #312
Haven't seen this mentioned in this thread but James Randi and others "overdosed"... SwissTony Feb 2013 #307
Yes I drink lots of water RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #315
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