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In reply to the discussion: Penelope Soto, my hero: Florida teen flipping the finger at abusive judge [View all]reorg
(3,317 posts)245. My point was
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that the situation may not have developed if there had not been this wide generational, cultural and possibly also personal attractivity gap.
I have been before two very different judges - one relatively young and apparently liberal minded, the other very similar to the one we are talking about: an old reactionary, self-delusional and arrogant. And yes, it makes a lot of difference. Not just in terms of the process, but also regarding the outcome.
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Penelope Soto, my hero: Florida teen flipping the finger at abusive judge [View all]
reorg
Feb 2013
OP
Some of the old-bashers had better hope they live long enough to be called old. n/t
RebelOne
Feb 2013
#180
No, actually, it hadn't occured to me that she might be deliberately trying to hurt it
Xipe Totec
Feb 2013
#60
You seem to have a well developed ability to classify and reduce people to cartoonish stereotypes
Xipe Totec
Feb 2013
#296
She wasn't "taking a stand"....she doesnt seem smart enough to "take a stand"
blueamy66
Feb 2013
#111
I appreciate what you are saying, but I do not see a lawyer there to coach or assist her.
Sivafae
Feb 2013
#159
I'm not sure I can draw a conclusion either way based on the video. However...
Xipe Totec
Feb 2013
#216
No, she was flipping off a hateful asshole. People like him are an embarrassment to the court. nt
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#100
I don't like when people use positions of power to talk down to people and expect respect in return.
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#108
I'm not sure what some of these "the judge was a harsh prick" posters want or expect.
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#198
Nathan Hale is "I regret that I only have one life to give (or lose) for my country"
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2013
#35
Unrec. Sorry that your hatred of authority clouds your judgment of what a hero is.
FSogol
Feb 2013
#8
If I had an 18 who experimented with drugs and is caught by me or authorities...
vaberella
Feb 2013
#20
Confusing "courage" and "stupidity" may well be validating to your point of view,
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#169
I don't doubt that Ms. Soto deserved a contempt sentence of some length
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2013
#38
A few days in the slammer probably helped her adjust her attitude a bit.
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#153
Has it occured to anyone here that maybe she doesn't know how much her jewlery is worth because
Sivafae
Feb 2013
#174
So your answer would be "Rick Ross" while giggling like a schoolgirl too??
thelordofhell
Feb 2013
#165
The difference in her behaviour between the first video above and the second
A HERETIC I AM
Feb 2013
#40
Exactly. The child had probably never learned their could be consequences for acting like that.
alphafemale
Feb 2013
#117
Because the first judge......in the part of the video that hardly anyone saw...appointed one
thelordofhell
Feb 2013
#191
Thanks for this. Of course the righteous DUers loved this girl going to jail....
Logical
Feb 2013
#46
1 or 2 days is a lesson, 30 days is a idiot judge! Shit, DUI drivers get no time! n-t
Logical
Feb 2013
#150
What's that old country song? "My Heroes Have Always Been Dumbasses"?
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#265
Yes, and ALL of us are 100% WRONG and you--YOU ALONE--are the paragon of reason.
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#212
I am shocked that someone who self-medicates with Xanax might behave as if she has social anxiety.nt
Ian David
Feb 2013
#86
That judge is an asshole... and I question any sentences handed down by such a crabby prick. nt
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#99
I wouldn't call her a hero, but I'm glad to see she's got a second hearing! nt.
polly7
Feb 2013
#134
I was mortified about the responses here yesterday. It is getting harder and harder
Lionessa
Feb 2013
#138
You seem to fail to recognize that the judge was disrespectful initially, there's not a thing
Lionessa
Feb 2013
#164
I was surprised as well, happily, that the majority of DUers sided with the judge. nt
Skip Intro
Feb 2013
#145
Yes, she is quite the hero. I'm showing the video to my daughters and I'll tell them,
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#152
I must confess I only have the vaguest idea of who the Kardashians are.
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#197
"'Hero'? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#171
You Really Need to Watch the Video a Few More Times - She's A Strung Out Addict - Not Hero.
dballance
Feb 2013
#178
Sorry, but anyone stupid enought to flip off a judge in the courtroom gets no sympathy from me.
GumboYaYa
Feb 2013
#202
What a poor choice of heroes. If you want a case of a really fucked up judge getting righteously
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#213
The judge is Cuban, her jail record lists her as white. The 'adios' comes off as rude and racist.
Matariki
Feb 2013
#240
You've shown yourself to be racist, ageist, and 'lookist' through this whole thread
Matariki
Feb 2013
#267
What I didn't bring up is "one of those" - what the hell kind of racist shit is that
Matariki
Feb 2013
#258
Yes, be very afraid, obey, conform, submit. After all, those are the principles this
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#253
Unfortunately in some cases, no matter how mad you are at a judge, no matter how insane
JDPriestly
Feb 2013
#279
Judge is a jerk with attitude who picks on girls. A waste of our tax dollars!!!
anneboleyn
Feb 2013
#282