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randome

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10. Where do you get 'hatred' from?

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:42 AM

Feb 2013

I'm talking about terrorist groups who treat women and children abominably and want to install Islamic dictatorships. That's not hatred, that's a recognition of reality.

Again, countries have requested that we stop those who want to install Islamic dictatorships. That's a fact, too.

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Imagine China sending a drone into the USA airspace to kill someone.... [View all] Logical Feb 2013 OP

This is the most ridiculous hypothetical of all. randome Feb 2013 #1

It is not ridiculous at all, your other assertion of fact is wrong, and something like Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #2

What country has not given us permission? I hope you're not thinking of Pakistan. randome Feb 2013 #4

Iran BainsBane Feb 2013 #5

Where do you get 'hatred' from? randome Feb 2013 #10

You said "Islamic dictatorship" BainsBane Feb 2013 #13

I am not doing that. randome Feb 2013 #15

it is a dictatorship BainsBane Feb 2013 #19

As I said, I have not studied Islam. randome Feb 2013 #24

You have not studied Islam? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #76

"Islamic peoples"? Turborama Feb 2013 #29

Because I don't always proofread as well as I should. randome Feb 2013 #31

I guess you never heard of gholtron Feb 2013 #111

You ignore my point BainsBane Feb 2013 #116

Pakistan, Somalia, for starters. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #14

Right. The Pakistani government is definitely afraid of being overthrown. randome Feb 2013 #16

Oh, I get it. Bonobo Feb 2013 #43

Um...no. randome Feb 2013 #45

So they SAY "stop the drones" but they don't mean it, right? Bonobo Feb 2013 #47

Pakistan says 'stop the drones' by way of an ambassador. randome Feb 2013 #49

Everyone knows senior ambassadors are NOT to be considered as representing the will of the govt. Bonobo Feb 2013 #51

You have a point. randome Feb 2013 #52

However, they clearly have wanted us there in some instances. randome Feb 2013 #64

lol unapatriciated Feb 2013 #140

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia, and by now, I suspect in Mali. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #68

Pakistan has repeatedly asked the US to stop. Bonobo Feb 2013 #42

They also turn a blind eye to our operations. randome Feb 2013 #75

Why the U.S. Is Not Winning “Hearts and Minds” in Pakistan polly7 Feb 2013 #93

I'm not in 'favor' of drone strikes anywhere. I'm not in 'favor' of overseas meddling at all. randome Feb 2013 #98

what did hou think the Talibans did in Afghanistan? gholtron Feb 2013 #122

For starters, this. randome Feb 2013 #127

We DO have groups trying to overthrow the government and install... dogknob Feb 2013 #139

+1000 noiretextatique Feb 2013 #141

I disagree BainsBane Feb 2013 #3

Oh, so your objection is 'foreign airspace'? randome Feb 2013 #6

You raised the issue of permission BainsBane Feb 2013 #11

I recognize the Taliban isn't all Muslims. randome Feb 2013 #17

no, I don't BainsBane Feb 2013 #21

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You do realize how these terrorist groups treat women and children, right? randome Feb 2013 #12

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'Proof'? No. randome Feb 2013 #30

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It goes to Wikipedia. Not sure why it won't work for you. randome Feb 2013 #36

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I agree, we don't target based on that criteria. Not that I'm aware of, anyways. randome Feb 2013 #40

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I think the local police can handle matters fine. randome Feb 2013 #50

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Correct Go Vols Feb 2013 #97

The vast majority of those countries have asked for our resources and help. randome Feb 2013 #99

I hope you're not trying to say the 'wars' or drones are in any way polly7 Feb 2013 #56

+1 KoKo Feb 2013 #60

I am NOT saying that is America's prime concern. Perhaps it should be. randome Feb 2013 #67

Well I'm saying they're of 'no concern'. polly7 Feb 2013 #69

How would you stop terrorists who blow up bars and school buses in other countries? randome Feb 2013 #72

Damn Right! During the troubles in Belfast I recall Dragonfli Feb 2013 #78

You're confusing "terrorism" with "Islam" Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #77

I am NOT confusing the two. I have no issue with anyone's religion. randome Feb 2013 #80

So do non-Islamic dictatorships Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #81

America is not consistent. I acknowledge that. randome Feb 2013 #84

By the way, for all your alleged concern for the women and children... Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #86

I acknowledged that, too, in another post in this thread. randome Feb 2013 #89

At the moment, American foreign policy is more than inconsistent--- Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #91

ok, you win the most stupid post award Sheepshank Feb 2013 #59

Message auto-removed sadalien Feb 2013 #62

It seems to be a growing habit here from a few Sheepshank Feb 2013 #70

All that by making an observation of a remarkable islamophobe Dragonfli Feb 2013 #85

No I don't see an extreme hatred of Islam in the comment Sheepshank Feb 2013 #87

You KNOW that I am right, the guy constantly makes use of the word as interchangeable Dragonfli Feb 2013 #104

Talk to my lawyer! randome Feb 2013 #106

Wow, I never thought you could be so honest about your influences Dragonfli Feb 2013 #107

Gotta go. Almost lunch time. randome Feb 2013 #109

As if your judgements of me are innocuous? Sheepshank Feb 2013 #108

Got to say, your post is ridiculous as well as FoxNewsy. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #26

I never claimed American foreign policy was consistent. It has never been so. randome Feb 2013 #28

Yeah, but you stated those actions as reasons for acts of war when the same actions are done Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #33

Some of the terrorist groups we are fighting are determined to install Islamic dictatorships. randome Feb 2013 #37

Tactical cooperation is not an invitation to a bombing. rug Feb 2013 #55

Agreed Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #94

Ummm, actually we have hundreds, if not thousands of people plotting Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #112

Sure. Every country has plans to blow up every other country. What a waste. randome Feb 2013 #119

"We" always think we do more good then bad. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #134

Yeah, well, some don't care about America. randome Feb 2013 #135

Thats odd. bvar22 Feb 2013 #114

So because of the Bush Regime, we should huddle in our homes and withdraw from the world? randome Feb 2013 #118

That is one of the most extreme Strawman Logical Fallacies I have seen on DU! bvar22 Feb 2013 #130

I truly don't enter into discussions here to prove myself right or wrong. Or to 'save face'. randome Feb 2013 #133

It is obvious you want "something", bvar22 Feb 2013 #136

Is that a Haiku? randome Feb 2013 #138

Let's say I am a Chinese dissident blogger in the U.S....with my posts I've become a problem Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #120

Then the world economy collapses and so does China. randome Feb 2013 #123

How so? That would be a throwback to M.A.D. doctrine Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #125

I think it is a form of M.A.D. randome Feb 2013 #128

I agree all conjecture...oh we might have a bit of frosty relations for a while... Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #129

No. The only countries that could do that are Mexico, Canada, and Cuba Recursion Feb 2013 #7

You aren't thinking beyond this year BainsBane Feb 2013 #18

I think you're missing the big point here: we have drones, and a Navy Recursion Feb 2013 #20

my point stands BainsBane Feb 2013 #22

They'll probably have it out with India in the next half century Recursion Feb 2013 #25

they can sit back and watch us sink ourselves BainsBane Feb 2013 #57

That's ridiculous. Everyone knows the US, not China, determines International Law.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #9

LOL, good one! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #32

China would not risk hitting a Wal*Mart or one of their managers ... eom Kolesar Feb 2013 #23

Let's Go A Smaller Scale... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #35

In Africa, they're going at each other with machetes and machine guns now. randome Feb 2013 #38

It Wont Be Long... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #44

But they have no reason to pick a war with America. randome Feb 2013 #48

The Point Is About The Proliferation Of These Weapons... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #53

How would we ever be a security threat to China? randome Feb 2013 #63

Weapons Sales For Fun and Profit... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #73

Eh. The technology for nuclear bombs is everywhere, too, and we still maintain a balance of power. randome Feb 2013 #74

Cost Comparison... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #90

when's the last time ANYONE has 'declared' war.....the earth is in a perpetual state of war spanone Feb 2013 #41

Comoros, against Anjouan, in 2008 Recursion Feb 2013 #58

Reduction to the absurd Gman Feb 2013 #61

You are unnecessarily making this complicated. We are the good guys. Nuff said. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #65

I hope it was sarcasm! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #96

It was intended as sarcasm, but a lot of DU posters use it for justification. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #105

I agree! It amazes me at times! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #121

As I see it, we all have our individual reality boxes. Some are willing to expand their rhett o rick Feb 2013 #137

You are right as rain, logical. Your detractors as per usual will plethoro Feb 2013 #66

I think I would welcome the justice strikes! Assuming they say "they picked me with care" Dragonfli Feb 2013 #71

Not so far fetched Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #79

It wouldn't last long slackmaster Feb 2013 #82

They could also ProSense Feb 2013 #83

Perhpas you could explain why the USA doesn't send drone strikes into China, or North Korea? Sheepshank Feb 2013 #88

Lol, because they would fight back! Understand now?? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #95

Then the real fun will begin malaise Feb 2013 #92

If we were harboring anti-Chinese terrorists and not doing anything about it.. DCBob Feb 2013 #100

Imagine Canada nuking Des Moines... SidDithers Feb 2013 #101

Imagine Sarah Palin with wings, swooping down to zap all unbelievers with her deadly eye beams! randome Feb 2013 #103

Pew! Pew!... SidDithers Feb 2013 #113

The U.S. has been known to accept dissidents from China and other countries... DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #102

I doubt any such thing would happen. MineralMan Feb 2013 #110

At a minimum, others who use drones to kill their enemies located on U.S. soil should be as indepat Feb 2013 #115

they would if they could arely staircase Feb 2013 #117

That is an excellent point. I also think it's wrong for the USA to stand alone as the drone senders Sunlei Feb 2013 #124

Multiple reasons why your analogy doesn't work. stevenleser Feb 2013 #126

really only one reason, though all of yours are valid arely staircase Feb 2013 #131

It's much easier to imagine us buying drones from China 'cuz they're cheaper. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #132