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Guess somebody better put together a fucking Jobs Program n/t leftstreet Feb 2013 #1
win SmileyRose Feb 2013 #2
And then the Republicans kill it sakabatou Feb 2013 #6
Please dont post without comment. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #3
Huge future problem that will drown out all the investment and much of the safety net. dkf Feb 2013 #4
And a good portion of the investment is from pension funds and 401(K)s which belong to JDPriestly Feb 2013 #7
The bond market is larger than the stock market. dkf Feb 2013 #11
All assets will suffer Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #47
We don't need a comment. This poster's intent is kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #9
Democrats used to be the party that fixed our finances. dkf Feb 2013 #12
I do not fear his "intent". I have confidence that I can refute or ignore as needed. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #20
was this already bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #5
Yes. Well, at least that was what we were told. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #8
If we had paid down the debt we would be golden. dkf Feb 2013 #13
Your breathless defense of the Bush tax cuts can be easily found in the archives RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #19
What a bunch of malarkey. dkf Feb 2013 #24
I have little doubt you may even wish us to believe that statement... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #35
Go ahead and try to find where I supported making the Bush cuts permanent. dkf Feb 2013 #36
Paying down the debt at this time would kill the economy. We need jobs. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #22
You miss the point...if we had stayed on the path Clinton had set up for us, our situation would be dkf Feb 2013 #23
So your point is that if we had done stuff differently in the past, we wouldnt be focked now? rhett o rick Feb 2013 #31
Clinton's plan was to pay down the deficit so we would have low debt dkf Feb 2013 #33
Are you talking about SS or the debt? They arent related. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #37
You need to think a little deeper to understand the issue. dkf Feb 2013 #38
I did as you suggested and thought really, really deep and rhett o rick Feb 2013 #39
The SS fund is going to run dry when the end of the baby boomers dkf Feb 2013 #40
I would love to see your sources for the calculation. In any case the answer is easy. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #43
Yes and conveniently not usually mentioned newfie11 Feb 2013 #17
And to think that there were some folks here who wanted the payroll tax holiday extended yet again bluestateguy Feb 2013 #10
And that's why the Greenspan commission decided we should pay extra to provide a cushion. pa28 Feb 2013 #14
Once it's spent down to zero then there's a 25% cut in benefits projected. dkf Feb 2013 #15
When that day arrives SS has a genuine problem. I think we agree there. pa28 Feb 2013 #16
I agree completely. Having a "trust fund" is only a temptation for spending. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #21
And when the trust fund is gone, that extra money you paid is also gone. dkf Feb 2013 #26
Who came up with the trillions for the Bush/Obama tax cuts MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #29
The purpose of the "trust fund" was to have extra money to pay the baby boomer rhett o rick Feb 2013 #30
That's exactly what happened and we gen x'ers helped. Part of the social contract. pa28 Feb 2013 #41
Of course we dont put the SS revenue in a box until we need it. But we do keep track rhett o rick Feb 2013 #42
So we need to cut it now, in case it needs to be cut later! MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #28
I knew you would catch on. "Cut Social Security benefits now, so we dont have to cut them in the rhett o rick Feb 2013 #45
This stuff is becoming more insane every day MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #46
ramping up the entitlement cut propaganda again HiPointDem Feb 2013 #18
Remove the fucking cap that lets the wealthy basically opt out of it. libtodeath Feb 2013 #25
These people have only been alive 55+ years MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #27
I might be wrong but arent they leading up to suggesting "targeted" euthanasia? rhett o rick Feb 2013 #34
This was expected because as this generation matured they needed added supports to account for jwirr Feb 2013 #32
I guess the good news is Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #44
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