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brentspeak

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69. Or more likely, as we've always guessed, you're not actually a Democrat

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:44 PM

Feb 2013

Since the bill was passed six years ago, Democrats have tried repeatedly to amend and even repeal the prefunding requirement, but have been thwarted by Republicans every time:

http://www.apwu.org/news/webart/2011/11-041-hr1351-hr1262-110411.htm

http://www.nalc.org/news/latest/misguided_sept2010.html

So, by logic, if...

a) the Democrats want to repeal the prefunding requirement

and

b) the Republicans are preventing the Democrats from repealing the prefunding requirement

and

c) you say that the prefunding requirement "isn't all that bad" and that Democratic Congress members are "hysterical" for trying to get rid of it

therefore, d) that makes you a what?

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Help me out here. 2 dems co-sponsored the bill to kill the postal service? [View all] boomer55 Feb 2013 OP

The Postal Office is going broke badtoworse Feb 2013 #1

The Post Office is going broke because of what Repukes did in the 90's Drale Feb 2013 #2

Well, and 2006.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #3

the problem I'm having with this prefund thing is it was consponsored by dems boomer55 Feb 2013 #4

Who gives a shit?? busterbrown Feb 2013 #17

I think I read that the move should save $2 billion a year badtoworse Feb 2013 #6

Where do you get your numbers at? Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #29

Operating loss was $4.8 billion- not $10 billion. hay rick Feb 2013 #65

Do you pay your bills on line? I do as do a hell of a lot of others cali Feb 2013 #11

By design. Congress gave a big chunk of their business to UPS & FedEx. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #52

The USPS is going broke xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #5

Republicans want the P.O. to close so fucking badly.................. busterbrown Feb 2013 #7

Do you have any specifics? badtoworse Feb 2013 #9

Yea, Give back the money that the republicans stole from them in the 90s. busterbrown Feb 2013 #10

You didn't answer my question badtoworse Feb 2013 #13

Very simple... busterbrown Feb 2013 #16

What do you consider on time? badtoworse Feb 2013 #19

I think your experience is not the norm.... P.O. cutbacks could now be starting to effect time. busterbrown Feb 2013 #22

Call up Fed Ex mikeysnot Feb 2013 #27

When I want to be sure it get's there, that's what I do. badtoworse Feb 2013 #47

So does the postal service nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #51

That would not have bothered me badtoworse Feb 2013 #55

They'll laugh at you when you ask them to do it for under 50 cents n/t wryter2000 Feb 2013 #57

I know what Fedex costs badtoworse Feb 2013 #60

Well, I do wryter2000 Feb 2013 #76

Good for you! mikeysnot Feb 2013 #77

Why does government need to be involved? Bandit Feb 2013 #18

I believe Congress is empowered to establish the Post Office badtoworse Feb 2013 #23

In other words you want to bust the union. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #32

The union has nothing to do with it badtoworse Feb 2013 #48

Yup, you want to bust it nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #49

Because it is an enumerated power and duty in the Constitution. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #31

Where does it say Congress has a duty? badtoworse Feb 2013 #50

Read the fracking document. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #53

I did. Unless I missed it, the word "duty" wasn't there. badtoworse Feb 2013 #58

National postal service was written into the Constitution. GOP wants it privatized, blm Feb 2013 #37

You realize rural areas rely on the PO nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #12

I have a summer camp in the Adirondacks badtoworse Feb 2013 #14

You mean a tourist attraction. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #15

In the long run, snail mail will become obsolete. badtoworse Feb 2013 #25

What other things do you want to get rid off nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #26

He is correct. Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #33

Conveniently ignore nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #34

Packages will still be delivered on Sat. Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #35

And you are for Union busting nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #36

My assumption is the Post office employees will handle them. Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #38

Why do you think a union was formed? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #39

I don't think I said anywhere I want to get rid of the union or cut wages Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #40

Pre funding elimination will go a long way nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #41

I didn't say that Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #43

Good...compete change. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #45

did you know usps delivers a substantial number of packages for ups and fedex? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #73

You are obviously not in mikeysnot Feb 2013 #28

um, you notice fedex and ups are delivering packages? that's because congress gave that business HiPointDem Feb 2013 #56

It's already obsolete in my house. badtoworse Feb 2013 #61

you don't order anything online and have it delivered? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #62

We shop online a lot - usually delivery is UPS or Fedex Ground badtoworse Feb 2013 #63

Parcel service *is* 'snail mail'. It involves a carrier bringing something to your house, and far HiPointDem Feb 2013 #66

Excellent post. Thanks for compiling some of the facts. n/t Laelth Feb 2013 #78

that is increasingly less true. cali Feb 2013 #20

vermont is not representative of rural areas. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #59

according to who? YOU? cali Feb 2013 #71

it's small: 37-89 miles across, 159 miles long. So you're always within an hours drive of some- HiPointDem Feb 2013 #72

"This isn't important to me, therefore it isn't important." (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #30

+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #54

Plus the bill's author, Tom Davis (R-VA) so it was a bipartisan knifing. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #8

Is there another civilized nation without a national postal service? This is disgraceful. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #21

I have a hard time understanding why those particular individuals would sponsor such a bill. Music Man Feb 2013 #24

Cutting Saturday delivery The Second Stone Feb 2013 #42

Somehow, I don't think you're really a member of "our" team brentspeak Feb 2013 #44

You're making the mistake of thinking " we" have a team. MrSlayer Feb 2013 #46

+1. and looks like there's a hell of a lot of so-called democrats who think that's fine & dandy. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #67

20 Republicans in the House opposed it. Not one single Democrat in the House or Senate voted against Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #64

Or perhaps house dems are in the pockets of the corporate interests backing the legislation. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #68

Every single one? Including Dennis Kucinich? And Bernie Sanders? Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #74

Or more likely, as we've always guessed, you're not actually a Democrat brentspeak Feb 2013 #69

How hard were they trying? Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress from 2007 to 2011 Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #75

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