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Then it MUST be a good thing. right? rustydog Feb 2013 #1
What if the American citizen is a member gholtron Feb 2013 #53
Supporting drones kinda makes you not 'liberal' tblue Feb 2013 #2
Agreed -- IMNSHO n/t markpkessinger Feb 2013 #54
Just read that a legal framework will soon be proposed in the House & Senate JaneyVee Feb 2013 #3
Supporting a drone policy "which administration officials refuse to discuss" MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #4
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Dawgs Feb 2013 #5
That's Very Disappointing. dballance Feb 2013 #6
It's not about the tool (drones) it's the justification for using it.n/t NOVA_Dem Feb 2013 #7
This goes beyond that. This is about the death penalty. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #8
DU is a different place. Dawgs Feb 2013 #11
DU is more critical of Drones than Democrats as a whole as my DU poll in GD suggests stevenleser Feb 2013 #13
Again. The use of Drones and this most recent policy on drone strikes of Americans are not the same. Dawgs Feb 2013 #90
I think it's about defending Obama at all costs.. NOVA_Dem Feb 2013 #14
Support the use of drones? Sure. But to do what. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #9
Would "77% of Liberal Democrats" support President Romney's use, I wonder. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #10
Thanks for the perspective, Steven. Cha Feb 2013 #12
I guess that means killing people without trial is now a "liberal" value. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #15
Or we disagree with your interpretation of it. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #16
Of what? Killing? Liberal? or "Value"? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #18
You have decided to interpret it that way. I see it the way the Magistrate explains it. stevenleser Feb 2013 #20
So, where's the part about killing people without trial being "liberal"? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #24
Phrasing the question that way would make it a push poll. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #25
OK. Let's try it this way. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #26
That is a separate issue. All Liberals and Democrats would answer the same way. stevenleser Feb 2013 #35
I guess that makes Obama not a liberal. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #40
Nope, he would answer the same way the way you framed the question. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #41
Did Southern Soldiers during the Civil War Get Trials or Were They Killed? Yavin4 Feb 2013 #66
LBJ was the greatest. I supported him then and know. He would have beaten Nixon. graham4anything Feb 2013 #36
He carried on a genocidal war against people that posed no threat to this country. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #39
LBJ would have beaten Nixon in 1968. And Nixon sabatoged the peace negotiations. graham4anything Feb 2013 #42
Losing may not have been an option (politically) but it was a reality. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #45
No, LBJ would not have won; he knew the political calculus then better than you now. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #63
LBJ vs. Nixon head to head, LBJ would have won. Ugly match, but LBJ would have won graham4anything Feb 2013 #71
Kind of like Iraq and Afghanistan. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #62
And his explanation is valid as long as you blindly trust your government. SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #34
Blind trust is not required, no. stevenleser Feb 2013 #60
al Qaeda is (insert insugency group du jour here) sadalien Feb 2013 #69
Even if I did believe this was a war, and I don't, SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #70
Nope, that is not required at all. stevenleser Feb 2013 #80
LOL.. Look I respect you and what you do but... SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #91
We are at war. gholtron Feb 2013 #56
Oh, pish. GMAB. Why not just say we're going to go after "the bad guys"? WinkyDink Feb 2013 #64
okay. We're going after the bad guys. gholtron Feb 2013 #67
The same was said of Vietnam. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #75
That 77% may be Democrats, but they are certainly not liberal davidn3600 Feb 2013 #17
Got that F'in Right!! DearHeart Feb 2013 #59
The old grey mare (donkey), she ain't what she used to be whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #19
Since when does majority opinion matter when it comes to cali Feb 2013 #21
Well, a DU jury for one example. stevenleser Feb 2013 #22
That's rather a shabby comparison. cali Feb 2013 #23
That is an often repeated canard, it's not true. You are conflating Iraq and torture with drones. stevenleser Feb 2013 #27
plus ten zillion graham4anything Feb 2013 #43
That's an egregious misuse of the word canard. cali Feb 2013 #47
I stand by my earlier statement. You cannot come up with a single example. stevenleser Feb 2013 #50
what? what? what? cali Feb 2013 #52
I disagree. Bonobo Feb 2013 #85
So DU juries are an acceptable way of judging right from wrong? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #83
drones are not the issue... mike_c Feb 2013 #28
Thank you! This is about Due Process and Assassinations of US Citizens... NOVA_Dem Feb 2013 #31
no it is not. the issue is drones. nothing else. graham4anything Feb 2013 #44
Who is doing the diverting depends on your perspective. I think it is you. stevenleser Feb 2013 #32
LMFAO.. yeah.. I'm sure all these liberals will feel the same way SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #29
Easy remedy for that, right? Don't move to Yemen and sign up with Al Qaeda. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #33
Yeah I don't plan on it. However within the next 5 years SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #37
And that's when the FEMA Camps come into play. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #49
Yeah ok. SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #58
If 77% of Liberal Democrats walked off a pier, would you? (facepalm) Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #30
Well, I guess I'm either in the minority or not a liberal Democrat. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #38
Funny, they never asked me. RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #46
And if Bush was president, 90% would oppose it LittleBlue Feb 2013 #48
Nope, that is an oft repeated canard. stevenleser Feb 2013 #51
good point nt ecstatic Feb 2013 #57
And some of us who were, are. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #61
LOL, you believe that? If Romney did this we would be up in arms. Nice try. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #65
Nice try yourself. If it's so obvious, provide an example stevenleser Feb 2013 #76
no they woudln't, many supported him going into Afghanistan , but didn't support Iraq JI7 Feb 2013 #72
Why did we use a drone to kill Anwar al-Awlaki? Kolesar Feb 2013 #55
Well that's disheartening Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #68
Just proves how worthless the contemporary definition of "liberal" has become. marmar Feb 2013 #73
"Liberal" = "Obama bumper sticker" n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #74
That's one interpretation. The other is more likely. stevenleser Feb 2013 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author marmar Feb 2013 #86
"to interdict terrorist groups planning to hurt them" marmar Feb 2013 #89
Killing them (AS USUAL) with the facts Number23 Feb 2013 #78
In Vietnam, I wonder how many B Calm Feb 2013 #79
In Vietnam, if we'd had more liberal Democrats, about 99% of the eventual total KIA. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #88
That is heartbreaking and nauseating all at the same time. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #81
I'm part of the 23% who doesn't support it. Apophis Feb 2013 #82
A limited and judicious use of drones is inevitable and can be warranted fujiyama Feb 2013 #84
The whole reason we have a Bill of Rights is to protect us from tyranny of the majority. BlueCheese Feb 2013 #87
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