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45. +1000000 ...Thank you. nt

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I am not a"Loyal Member of the Democratic Party" I am a Democrat [View all] rustydog Feb 2013 OP

I'm conflicted too because as bad as they are they're sure better than the whole JaneyVee Feb 2013 #1

What you said Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #7

Seconded MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #25

Well said. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2013 #2

I too, believe that even the President of the USA is not above the law quinnox Feb 2013 #3

Nixon famously said Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #4

I believe he followed that up with... Blanks Feb 2013 #5

But he believed it.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #9

He's dead. What he believed is moot. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #12

Precedent is moot? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #13

He's dead now. Blanks Feb 2013 #14

And the use of drones against Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #16

Does it somehow make Nixon less dead? Blanks Feb 2013 #48

They impeached Clinton's dick tama Feb 2013 #76

You mean like George W Bush and Dick Cheney. Ashgrey77 Feb 2013 #28

The fact that I know that Nixon is dead... Blanks Feb 2013 #51

Let's get to the underlying issue ... JoePhilly Feb 2013 #6

It appears that there are no limits to the powers authorized by AUMF rhett o rick Feb 2013 #20

I'll agree that Obama is "expanding" these powers when he invades a country for no JoePhilly Feb 2013 #22

Whether or not dropping the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were war crimes rhett o rick Feb 2013 #75

US Congress gave the Executive Branch - well then the president cant hold on to it if congress takes leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #35

Sure they could ... but they'll need to be able to overide the President's veto. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #40

ok yea for some reason a veto of it nvr crossed my mind leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #49

An attack on America isn't reason enough for you? michigandem58 Feb 2013 #8

How many of those attackers were American (or Iraqi or Afghan for that matter), again? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #17

You aren't that obtuse michigandem58 Feb 2013 #18

There have been many attacks on us committed by American citizens, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #21

We used due process because we had the ability to apprehend them. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #23

Once we actually decided to, we found and killed OBL, but we can't grab Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #29

You might want to read up on these events. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #42

So, if not drones, special forces are the only option... Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #46

Is that really the best you have? JoePhilly Feb 2013 #59

Wow. I had hoped (I see now that it was forlorn) that my chide might nudge you into thought. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #67

Due process isn't always practical michigandem58 Feb 2013 #24

See #29 Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #30

This nation's conscience, moral character,belief in justice for all rustydog Feb 2013 #82

+ 10,000. truedelphi Feb 2013 #63

and drone attacks like what we're doing theaocp Feb 2013 #34

First of all, read the goddamn justification! rustydog Feb 2013 #70

Yes it is. Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #84

I'm a yellow dog, down and dirty, cut to the bone democrat myself madokie Feb 2013 #10

But, as an American, FredStembottom Feb 2013 #15

Exactly! There's nothing patriotic about being an ignorant sheeple. Lionessa Feb 2013 #19

that's what people said about bush.. frylock Feb 2013 #36

Precisely, in all but "get out of the way". Why are we engaging in that vote thingee, unless we patrice Feb 2013 #44

true true true Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #53

Just because you may be stifled by distance and maybe this sticky little thing called PROOF rustydog Feb 2013 #83

Hey look I voted for the man three times now madokie Feb 2013 #85

I am loyal to my dogs and horse and my family Autumn Feb 2013 #11

yup. As a country we are great for saying that we stand for one thing then doing the exact opposite. Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #26

I am a Democrat and wasn't loyal to LBJ and his war, nor am I to Obama and his war. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #27

I can respect that if you can respect that for SOME of us it isn't loyalty to war. It is loyalty patrice Feb 2013 #38

You're rationalizing. librabear Feb 2013 #47

When did the RATIONAL become bad??? patrice Feb 2013 #54

When your rationalizations replace your convictions and ethics bobduca Feb 2013 #79

So YOU are the judge of my convictions and ethics. Tell me why you are not a fascist, please. nt patrice Feb 2013 #87

Only when you stop beating your wife nt bobduca Feb 2013 #90

Bullshit. Please answer the question. By your previous post, AN OBSERVABLE EVENT, you appear to be a patrice Feb 2013 #92

Just because an ethical decision is DIFFERENT from yours, that does not NECESSARILY, rationally, patrice Feb 2013 #88

DIFFERENCE =/= Evil unless one is a fascist. nt patrice Feb 2013 #89

Isn't one of the biggest problems of conviction & ethics in the USA the fact that too many of us patrice Feb 2013 #91

PRETENDING that two words with the SAME root have ABSOLUTELY different & unique semantic patrice Feb 2013 #93

If what you are saying about language were true, Noam Chomsky would be a nobody. nt patrice Feb 2013 #94

When did it become bad to ANALYZE specific experiences & situations logically & decide based onthat? patrice Feb 2013 #55

You may choose your own risks. You do not have the right to choose other people's risks for them. patrice Feb 2013 #31

You especially do not have the right to choose other people's risks for them when it appears that patrice Feb 2013 #32

I'm not conflicted adieu Feb 2013 #33

Yep! And EACH person is FREE to identify & commit freely to right and/or wrong as EACH KNOWS it. patrice Feb 2013 #41

+1000000 ...Thank you. nt woo me with science Feb 2013 #45

k, so you are an absolutist, not a rationalist. You claim a "right" to determine what patrice Feb 2013 #56

Are you claiming a "right" to determine the RISKS of death that other people face? & if so, by patrice Feb 2013 #58

If so, please inform us when we voted that responsibility to you. nt patrice Feb 2013 #62

i suspect that you, and many others, won't be as conflicted when the repubs are back in control frylock Feb 2013 #37

That's a cheap shot. There is nothing in the OP's comment that even remotely suggests that they want totodeinhere Feb 2013 #50

i never suggested that, but to believe the repubs will never have the white house again.. frylock Feb 2013 #73

The Right Wing is claiming the U.N. is behind it.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #39

'government' & 'government officials' act badly all the time. xchrom Feb 2013 #43

Imposing restrictions, and expecting that alone will meet the needs, most often fails, but you patrice Feb 2013 #52

Imperfect they may be - but laws, restrictions, etc xchrom Feb 2013 #66

I'm not proposing that we just throw them all out. Personally, I think, when I say we need to patrice Feb 2013 #69

Or as a very wise woman stated today: truedelphi Feb 2013 #68

you'll have to forgive the swooners Skittles Feb 2013 #57

Stereotyping is such an impressive thinking skill. nt patrice Feb 2013 #61

If there's one thing to say neffernin Feb 2013 #60

When you continually show me that violence is the answer to our problems WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2013 #64

My hats off to you donnasgirl Feb 2013 #65

K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #71

K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #72

kick woo me with science Feb 2013 #74

I dunno, personally I think it would be nice to see some consistency of principle from some people.. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #77

Cheers to you, rustydog! Efilroft Sul Feb 2013 #78

I agree. The democratic party threw hissy fist when George W. Bush used liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #80

Bush claimed the right to spy and torture, Obama added killing Americans to the list Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #86

kick woo me with science Feb 2013 #81