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randome

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7. Not all the terrorists hate the U.S.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:54 PM
Feb 2013

We are also fighting those who behead women and chop the hands off unbelievers. We are in these countries at the behest of their governments. In all the 'fog of war' stuff, we lose sight that, at least in some cases, we are doing what many would consider noble things in stopping those who kill and mutilate their own people and keep women as virtual slaves.

Just curious... KansDem Feb 2013 #1
you cant, but the ramifications are, really, quite different pasto76 Feb 2013 #38
curious kardonb Feb 2013 #56
You forgot the most important part. President Obama will be President forever and ever Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #2
if obama behaves like "those awful republicans" there's not that much difference on those issues nt msongs Feb 2013 #3
Yep. It's not that there's no difference between the parties, it's that the differences Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #10
Yes. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #29
That is absolutely perfectly stated. FredStembottom Feb 2013 #34
Why TYVM. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #43
The number of DUers who refuse to admit how execrable the policy is has me contemplating on coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #60
No more contemplating. JTFrog Feb 2013 #64
There are many on this board who are not here because they support iemitsu Feb 2013 #67
Coalition_unwilling, if you ever read this Catherina Feb 2013 #79
Indeed. nt woo me with science Feb 2013 #46
K&R idwiyo Feb 2013 #73
Next up Hillary. 12 more years of this neo-liberal bullshit leftstreet Feb 2013 #5
I'm at least somewhat hopeful that she won't run. DU is not nearly as influential as it likes Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #6
Hillary45. Michelle46. President Obama nominated/becomes SCOTUS in 2018. graham4anything Feb 2013 #51
It is not good for our Democracy to nurture political dynasties. iemitsu Feb 2013 #58
Heavens, yes! Suggesting a Clinton-Obama dynasty gives the impression that Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #59
I hate everything about the Bush dynasty. iemitsu Feb 2013 #65
Yeah, new SCOTUS will indeed be provided by Jeb Bush to your liking graham4anything Feb 2013 #63
All of your points are good. I don't take issue with any of them, iemitsu Feb 2013 #66
Yes, as I said, failure of imagination Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #68
Yep, I suspect that some of the support that Obama enjoyed in 2008 iemitsu Feb 2013 #70
But what is your opinion on torture as practiced by CIA? Do you think president was right when he idwiyo Feb 2013 #74
DURec leftstreet Feb 2013 #4
Not all the terrorists hate the U.S. randome Feb 2013 #7
We are also allies of countries who do those very things. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #9
And the US was friends with EXACTLY those people... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #16
Yes, and if we had stood by and let the Soviets help the Marxist Afghan government suppress the Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #21
That's the problem - government of Afganistan was a socialist government and just like Chiliean idwiyo Feb 2013 #75
What a load of bull that is. Our Saudi 'allies' chop off hands and behead women. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #76
How are those drone strikes working out in Saudi Arabia? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #99
K&R G_j Feb 2013 #8
K&R whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #11
"loves the idea of watching perceived enemies get blown up at a distance" SkyIsGrey Feb 2013 #12
K&R. zeemike Feb 2013 #13
There's several problems with your arguments jeff47 Feb 2013 #14
Bigger problems with yours. Drones already in use... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #20
You might wanna fix your post so the quotes are in place. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #22
Your words don't bear repeating. TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #25
So you'd like people to guess at what you are replying to? jeff47 Feb 2013 #26
More or less the same break up of points as yours. TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #35
"Go back to the colonial era...boundaries deliberately drawn to maximise internal ethnic conflict." HiPointDem Feb 2013 #61
Drones targeting kids is problematic but maybe that issue will soon be solved. iemitsu Feb 2013 #69
Obviously, you never heard of Godwin's Law. Benton D Struckcheon Feb 2013 #81
Problems with your arguments, Mr. Conventional Wisdom Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #23
K&R wish I could do it for real though. idwiyo Feb 2013 #53
Hey, don't you know inconvenient facts get in the way of a good rant? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #37
The most disturbing part of all of this Thav Feb 2013 #15
You got that right... NeoConsSuck Feb 2013 #18
K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #17
K&R Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2013 #19
k/r marmar Feb 2013 #24
Well said. K&R Louisiana1976 Feb 2013 #27
+ a million truebluegreen Feb 2013 #28
thanks, Lydia noiretextatique Feb 2013 #30
kick woo me with science Feb 2013 #31
DURec! bvar22 Feb 2013 #32
An incredible post "LL".....can't recommend enough. KoKo Feb 2013 #33
Brilliant and spot on - as you always are, LL. scarletwoman Feb 2013 #36
+1000 blackspade Feb 2013 #39
I sure wished Bush had a Drone at TORA BORA DearAbby Feb 2013 #40
This is a debate we should be having DearAbby Feb 2013 #41
What's this I see here? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #45
Thank you n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #47
Yeah DearAbby Feb 2013 #49
I don't agree that these are all necessarily bad guys Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #52
+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #62
Thanks Lydia. n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #80
Unfortunately, we all KNOW why Bush would never had used a drone (or any other weaponry) bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #48
Drones are here to stay because people buy into the fear racket and condone them and support them Catherina Feb 2013 #82
The real problem Augiedog Feb 2013 #42
China or North Korea John2 Feb 2013 #50
So would you actually tell a Chinese dissident to go back to China and Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #55
Actually, the Taliban OFFERED to turn over Bin Laden ... brett_jv Feb 2013 #85
Dones, Coming To The Skies Near You. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #44
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #54
But..but..seeing as we can't win an actual war we must seem to be doing something. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #57
I find your argument absurd and your last line rather disgraceful hfojvt Feb 2013 #71
Sending drones into another country IS an act of war Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #72
Funny how WWII always gets a pass as Skidmore Feb 2013 #77
Thanks for a brilliant rant- copied to read whenever the BS overflows green for victory Feb 2013 #78
Well said. MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #83
Thank You unapatriciated Feb 2013 #84
Point by point deconstruction... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #86
Stopped reading after you graded your own baseless statement as a fact. Bonobo Feb 2013 #87
Of course you did: facts are "baseless" when you don't want them to be true. ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #89
You mean "proud member of the rationalization community," don't you? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #88
Characterizations are fair... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #92
Who says the world needs a policeman? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #93
Not to put too fine a point on it... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #94
The Europeans did most of the work in Kosovo Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #95
Please, before you just say things like this, do some research ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #96
"The U.S. has more military firepower than the next five nations world wide combined. " Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #97
Lydia, again, your perceptions run contrary to the facts... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #98
Conflicts like Libya and Syria are treated like Evil vs. Good in the U.S. media, but Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #100
I agree that things are nuanced... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #101
Agree 100%. This should be front and center on the 'Greatest' page Taverner Feb 2013 #90
Well said, Lydia. Thanks. nt Zorra Feb 2013 #91
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