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Recursion

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151. Because they break. All the time. The Aurora shooter had one, and that ended up saving lives
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:25 AM
Feb 2013

The drum broke, like they tend to. If he had had multiple smaller magazines like the shooter at Virginia Tech did, he could have killed a lot more people.

And you posted using a "press?" How many pages per minute? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #1
And we can blow you to bits by posting links quickly? Chorophyll Feb 2013 #3
Amendments.. which are more important.? SQUEE Feb 2013 #9
I'm Sure Your Comments On The 5.56/.223 Will Be Of Great Comfort..... Paladin Feb 2013 #11
I do not speak to or for those parents, even the ones that support my position SQUEE Feb 2013 #15
Looks like you need to learn a few things, too... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #13
Hydrostatic shock doesn't blow people to bits, SQUEE Feb 2013 #14
Thanks For Sharing. Keep Up The Valuable Work, Don't Let Anybody Hold You Back. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #16
Sorry, but until you provide something, anything, to back up your rather interesting "opinion".... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #18
Ahhh, so the hyperbole is blowing a person "to bits" when all it does is kill them. EOTE Feb 2013 #32
yup, SQUEE Feb 2013 #34
Death is death, that's not hyperbole. EOTE Feb 2013 #36
I again point out I belittle no one for not being technically proficient SQUEE Feb 2013 #38
Then you should understand that it makes no difference whether a gun tears one to pieces EOTE Feb 2013 #40
AND if we want to actually make a difference in the violence. SQUEE Feb 2013 #41
The gun nuts are NOT interested in saving lives. EOTE Feb 2013 #44
I downplay nothing, I leave my emotions out of my politics. SQUEE Feb 2013 #46
The gun nuts are the ones playing stupid semantic arguments when lives are on the line. EOTE Feb 2013 #47
I am more concerned with keeping my right than SQUEE Feb 2013 #49
Exactly as I thought. EOTE Feb 2013 #52
People do have a right to MGs and they are legal. SQUEE Feb 2013 #60
i hope we take away your 'right' to automatic weapons and large capacity clips....i hope. spanone Feb 2013 #54
Okay, I dont own any automatic weapons, SQUEE Feb 2013 #58
More corrections to Spanone, #54 Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #74
Prohibitionists should reasonably define what they are trying to prohibit. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #72
Uh, the anti-gun zealots aren't interesred in saving lives. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #57
oh give it up its the same damn post every time ^^ this one is slightly more offensive farminator3000 Feb 2013 #174
Its your continued stalking posts that are repetitve. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #177
i'm not gonna let your creepy insinuations go unanswered. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #179
What "gay" comment? Are you on drugs? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #180
post #57, what does that mean, exactly? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #185
Do you understand how the "reply function" works? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #187
yes, unfortunately for you. i can also copy and paste. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #189
Copying it did help me find it, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #191
but not to explain it. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #194
Okay, I did find the post farther up. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #188
still don't like it- here's a surprise for ya farminator3000 Feb 2013 #193
I don't care whether you like it. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #195
didn't like that surprise, huh?? my objection is mainly your bloviating farminator3000 Feb 2013 #196
You're a looney-tune. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #198
you aren't good at avoiding questions- i did reply to post #57, still wondering what you mean? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #199
Many prohibitionists seem to have little concern about violence just a focus TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Feb 2013 #71
Wouldn't that depend on how large the person is? thucythucy Feb 2013 #73
I have often and clearly stated the NRA has no bearing on meor my views. SQUEE Feb 2013 #78
What is a "silly argument on its face" thucythucy Feb 2013 #87
A 2" cavitation equals "blowing someone to bits"? NickB79 Feb 2013 #22
We're talking about multiple wounds in 6 and 7 year old children, to include.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #31
My definition of "blowing someone to bits" NickB79 Feb 2013 #35
A child hit 11 times by .223 rounds producing 2-inch+ wound channels is a child... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #65
The bouncing magic 5.56 design has been debunked ad naueseum.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #37
Debunked? By whom? Any links? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #61
I m serious in asking, SQUEE Feb 2013 #62
I've provided a link that included sources...where are yours? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #64
please see IM SQUEE Feb 2013 #67
I'd rather not clutter my PM inbox with stuff that can't be discussed on this board,.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #75
I gave YOU what you asked, again in respect to this board, I will not post links to firearms sites.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #80
No, I'm not going to be bothered by a PM that contains info that can just as easily.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #88
done.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #91
Yes, you are done. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #96
You can read the hard copy of American Rifle, by Rose... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #76
No thanks...I won't be buying anything that can't be linked in this thread. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #85
Well, here is a thread to peruse (among many re: M-16/15 "tumbling" rounds): Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #117
The jury is still out on hydrostatic shock NickB79 Feb 2013 #23
He's welcome to his opinion, as are you, but there are plenty of others... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #63
Hydrostatic shock is discussed in the knock-down effects of big-game rounds... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #82
But, we're not talking about deer in this thread, are we? Since you and a few others insist..... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #93
Hit once in "equivalent" places with equivalent bullets, I don't know. Deer may run further. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #110
Amendments. You know why there are lots of them? Chorophyll Feb 2013 #19
+10000. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #66
+a million laundry_queen Feb 2013 #144
27 Amendments in over 200 years isn't many... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #212
YES bongbong Feb 2013 #24
+1 laundry_queen Feb 2013 #145
Also rather inconvenient to be counted as merely 3/5ths of a person... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #30
Not interested in bits, but the technology in the First is far more specific than in the Second. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #70
If my computer becomes a threat to you let me know nt Report1212 Feb 2013 #206
How on earth is an AR-15 going to fire 700 rounds in a minute? (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #2
Video here of an ar-15 firing 100 rounds in six seconds Electric Monk Feb 2013 #42
Yes, we've all seen that. Recursion Feb 2013 #43
Well, you asked how is it possible, thucythucy Feb 2013 #79
Yeah, like the monster on Frankenstein's slab. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #84
No, it is absolutely impossible for an AR15 to fire 700 rounds in a minute Recursion Feb 2013 #150
That's kind of like saying that because someone ran a 4 minute mile, they could run a marathon... JVS Feb 2013 #83
The one I shoot at the range sure does not.nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #142
The headline is totally made up. former9thward Feb 2013 #4
"700 to 950 rounds a minute" Animal Chin Feb 2013 #5
You can get a legal attachment to make it basically automatic Report1212 Feb 2013 #152
Yes, but as I said in my post Animal Chin Feb 2013 #154
Aftermarket modification. Deep13 Feb 2013 #209
Yes and yes SirRevolutionary Feb 2013 #6
And a Musket can fire 300 rounds per minute SayWut Feb 2013 #7
The Toyota Camry, which can travel at 8,000 miles per hour... cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #8
theoretically correct bossy22 Feb 2013 #10
OK, it's only about 50 rounds a minute. I guess that makes it no more lethal than Daisy Red Ryder. Hoyt Feb 2013 #12
One per trigger pull, so how many times can you pull the trigger? Bake Feb 2013 #59
Aside from the absurd claim about the firing rate... Daemonaquila Feb 2013 #17
Absurd it is. He also forgot this is 200± years later. Most of us have become more civilized. Hoyt Feb 2013 #20
Personally and if given a choice sweetapogee Feb 2013 #33
Correction... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #181
Can a person pull a trigger 700 times per minute? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #21
LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #26
I seem to get to correct you like 99.9999% of the time. Pholus Feb 2013 #53
Let me know when one is used in a murder. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #55
Once again, irrelevant and stop trying to weasel out on your words. Pholus Feb 2013 #69
Ae you ignorant or just obstinate? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #81
Neither. Merely correct. Unlike you. Pholus Feb 2013 #94
Hey, please keep up your feeble arguement. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #103
Yet only one of us has made verifiably false statements. Pholus Feb 2013 #112
Haha! HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #126
Whatever. Keep it up man! Pholus Feb 2013 #127
well give me a 700 round magazine Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #86
Provide evidence or it doesn't count. Pholus Feb 2013 #98
show me a youtube video of 700 rounds Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #104
Oooooh, it has to be 700 or you winsies? Pholus Feb 2013 #116
Like I said Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #122
You need some math homework. Pholus Feb 2013 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author Pholus Feb 2013 #197
Yes, the RATE can be achieved krispos42 Feb 2013 #192
Cyclic rate of fire is NOT the same as effective rate of fire. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #111
Show me first where the post I responded to made that distinction. nt Pholus Feb 2013 #113
Gunners understand it without it being stated. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #114
Ooooh, I'm penetrating the secret brotherhood of the AR-15 gunner! Pholus Feb 2013 #120
a person can pull a trigger 2 to 4 times a second, probably. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #124
why does the military Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #128
Cause the enemy would die laughing? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #130
maybe because they are TOTALLY lame? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #135
Because they break. All the time. The Aurora shooter had one, and that ended up saving lives Recursion Feb 2013 #151
More than 3 rounds fired automatically, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #129
"And more than a few dozen rounds fired in a single burst damages the weapon." farminator3000 Feb 2013 #134
How many lives would a 10 round limit save? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #137
more than zero is fine with me. but probably thousands. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #139
Thousands? Hyperbole much? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #140
i didn't give a time period. i don'r care if it happens in 10 months or 10 years, as long as it farminator3000 Feb 2013 #141
How about 5 lives/yr for 200years? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #157
sounds great! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #159
OK, 5 lives saved per year is acceptable to you. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #160
sure, hypothetically. but 5 is, of course, unrealisticly low. 5,000 a year sounds good, too farminator3000 Feb 2013 #161
Assault weapons don't kill 5000 per year. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #162
no but guns do. why would a sane person just give assault weapons a pass+reg. the other guns? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #163
I don't need to google a Tech9, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #165
yup, you don't NEED to own one either, so melt 'em all down- plastic crap. so are you farminator3000 Feb 2013 #167
Ban a gun based on looks, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #169
bullshit its an easily convertable 'assault pistol',and it is on the new AWB list where it should be farminator3000 Feb 2013 #171
Oh hogwash... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #175
its the false versions of history that's the annoying thing farminator3000 Feb 2013 #178
really? you are blathering about hurricanes, but not paid by the NRA to repeat such silliness? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #164
I guess you haven't heard of climate change? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #166
no idea what hurricanes have to do with guns farminator3000 Feb 2013 #168
I'm sure you can find remedial reading comprehension tutors on google. nt HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #170
yes but they still won't be able to explain what the hurricane/gun connection is farminator3000 Feb 2013 #172
If your governor called up your state militia kudzu22 Feb 2013 #25
When my state (or Congress) codifies the need for me to show up with a weapon, and jmg257 Feb 2013 #27
The NRA talking heads are just doing their job, representing the gun manufacturing industry AndyA Feb 2013 #28
Yep laundry_queen Feb 2013 #146
Someone please explain to him moondust Feb 2013 #29
So they prove by linking to article about the M16 and AR 15 are the same SpartanDem Feb 2013 #39
Theoretically correct nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #45
So ..as of late you have latched onto the SQUEE Feb 2013 #48
Are you disputing that the Thomson was state of the art? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #50
Are you suggesting I give a fig for anything the NRA has to say? SQUEE Feb 2013 #68
So you don't see the Thompson machine gun thucythucy Feb 2013 #92
a historical relic, an iconic symbol of an era SQUEE Feb 2013 #97
A relic today, thucythucy Feb 2013 #101
Nope, SQUEE Feb 2013 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #119
Not used in WWI as it didn't yet exist. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #143
as already posted, Not used in WWI SQUEE Feb 2013 #149
You know what squee. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #156
NRA Thugs Are Destroying America JoKandice Feb 2013 #51
The American machine gun of WWII fired about 500 rounds per minute, if memory is correct, indepat Feb 2013 #56
Wait a minute its the "nomenclature".......stupid. Historic NY Feb 2013 #77
I think a musket is smooth bore (most militia in the Rev. had rifles). Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #90
Muskets - smooth bores were the military weapon of choice. Historic NY Feb 2013 #95
Yep...hunting rifles and rifle-muskets were reserved for light infantry units who .... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #100
I don't know about "reserved." Rifles were the chief weapon of the militia and frontiersmen. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #105
Militia were outfitted by the Colonial governor, hence the King Historic NY Feb 2013 #121
This assumes that all those who were in the militia got arms from the governor, not traders. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #131
you do a lot of interpretive thinking! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #102
No, just in court rulings and commentary. Study away! Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #106
i'd think you might try and post a line or two of this 'interpretation' of 'yours' farminator3000 Feb 2013 #115
This stuff has been here many times. Check archives. I can't understand your cryptic... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #118
well if you can't understand the definition of the word from the dictionary... farminator3000 Feb 2013 #125
Fat Tony says the Constitution is "dead". That means the 2nd only applies to muskets. Sorry. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #89
Fat Tony thinks the 2nd permits every person to carry what an infantryman carries Peregrine Feb 2013 #133
Well then, Fat Tony is inconsistent, to say the least. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #136
No he doesn't hack89 Feb 2013 #158
To me the most disturbing part of this analogy thucythucy Feb 2013 #99
yes ^^^ I AGREE! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #108
+1. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #147
Really? tjnite Feb 2013 #107
yep. you buy some doohickey for it for $50 farminator3000 Feb 2013 #109
No, a $50 "doohicky" does not make an AR fire 700+ rpm. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #182
whatever, it costs $200-$300,you've already blown all the money on a cheesy gun, what's $2-300 more? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #184
A) Its not $50. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #186
no, it is pointless farminator3000 Feb 2013 #205
Not sure what your 1 million is referencing. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #207
Musket vs. AR-15 rdharma Feb 2013 #138
An AR-15 fires around 60-80 RPM thatwhichisnt Feb 2013 #153
Uh, they aren't interested in facts. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #183
"We're dealing with the Democratic Party's version of ignorant teabaggers." farminator3000 Feb 2013 #204
Uh, both parties are dealing with HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #210
And megaton nuke warheads are just today trebuchet, catapult... what the big deal? JackN415 Feb 2013 #155
Well then maybe the 2nd Amendment should be rewritten "today". SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #173
So by his ridiculous reasoning, the human body should be able to handle 30 or 40 shells 2on2u Feb 2013 #176
The Ford Mustang GT can go from 0 to 60 in 4.8 seconds krispos42 Feb 2013 #190
Awesome-ness Scott.K Feb 2013 #200
What do you need to shoot at 700 rounds per minute? cyberswede Feb 2013 #201
Re: 201 Scott.K Feb 2013 #202
that's really too bad farminator3000 Feb 2013 #203
te:203 Scott.K Feb 2013 #211
bullets are free where you live? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #214
That's a lie. An AR15 cannot fire 700 or any other number of rds-per-minute. Deep13 Feb 2013 #208
deep13 Scott.K Feb 2013 #213
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