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SQUEE

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78. I have often and clearly stated the NRA has no bearing on meor my views.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:27 PM
Feb 2013

And I find them as FOS as the other side.
The entire argument is deflection, as is the printing press vs internet argument.
But if you insist, as long as the Constitution is an ever changing and growing basis of out system of governance, then yes what he says is true, the two are equitable in terms of usage, actually, by his argument, I should have an M4, or SAW, and the Military would have ARs. Remember the Kentucky rifle was technologically superior to the smoothbore carried by the British regulars.. So again a silly argument on it's face

And you posted using a "press?" How many pages per minute? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #1
And we can blow you to bits by posting links quickly? Chorophyll Feb 2013 #3
Amendments.. which are more important.? SQUEE Feb 2013 #9
I'm Sure Your Comments On The 5.56/.223 Will Be Of Great Comfort..... Paladin Feb 2013 #11
I do not speak to or for those parents, even the ones that support my position SQUEE Feb 2013 #15
Looks like you need to learn a few things, too... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #13
Hydrostatic shock doesn't blow people to bits, SQUEE Feb 2013 #14
Thanks For Sharing. Keep Up The Valuable Work, Don't Let Anybody Hold You Back. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #16
Sorry, but until you provide something, anything, to back up your rather interesting "opinion".... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #18
Ahhh, so the hyperbole is blowing a person "to bits" when all it does is kill them. EOTE Feb 2013 #32
yup, SQUEE Feb 2013 #34
Death is death, that's not hyperbole. EOTE Feb 2013 #36
I again point out I belittle no one for not being technically proficient SQUEE Feb 2013 #38
Then you should understand that it makes no difference whether a gun tears one to pieces EOTE Feb 2013 #40
AND if we want to actually make a difference in the violence. SQUEE Feb 2013 #41
The gun nuts are NOT interested in saving lives. EOTE Feb 2013 #44
I downplay nothing, I leave my emotions out of my politics. SQUEE Feb 2013 #46
The gun nuts are the ones playing stupid semantic arguments when lives are on the line. EOTE Feb 2013 #47
I am more concerned with keeping my right than SQUEE Feb 2013 #49
Exactly as I thought. EOTE Feb 2013 #52
People do have a right to MGs and they are legal. SQUEE Feb 2013 #60
i hope we take away your 'right' to automatic weapons and large capacity clips....i hope. spanone Feb 2013 #54
Okay, I dont own any automatic weapons, SQUEE Feb 2013 #58
More corrections to Spanone, #54 Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #74
Prohibitionists should reasonably define what they are trying to prohibit. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #72
Uh, the anti-gun zealots aren't interesred in saving lives. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #57
oh give it up its the same damn post every time ^^ this one is slightly more offensive farminator3000 Feb 2013 #174
Its your continued stalking posts that are repetitve. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #177
i'm not gonna let your creepy insinuations go unanswered. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #179
What "gay" comment? Are you on drugs? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #180
post #57, what does that mean, exactly? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #185
Do you understand how the "reply function" works? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #187
yes, unfortunately for you. i can also copy and paste. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #189
Copying it did help me find it, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #191
but not to explain it. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #194
Okay, I did find the post farther up. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #188
still don't like it- here's a surprise for ya farminator3000 Feb 2013 #193
I don't care whether you like it. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #195
didn't like that surprise, huh?? my objection is mainly your bloviating farminator3000 Feb 2013 #196
You're a looney-tune. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #198
you aren't good at avoiding questions- i did reply to post #57, still wondering what you mean? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #199
Many prohibitionists seem to have little concern about violence just a focus TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Feb 2013 #71
Wouldn't that depend on how large the person is? thucythucy Feb 2013 #73
I have often and clearly stated the NRA has no bearing on meor my views. SQUEE Feb 2013 #78
What is a "silly argument on its face" thucythucy Feb 2013 #87
A 2" cavitation equals "blowing someone to bits"? NickB79 Feb 2013 #22
We're talking about multiple wounds in 6 and 7 year old children, to include.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #31
My definition of "blowing someone to bits" NickB79 Feb 2013 #35
A child hit 11 times by .223 rounds producing 2-inch+ wound channels is a child... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #65
The bouncing magic 5.56 design has been debunked ad naueseum.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #37
Debunked? By whom? Any links? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #61
I m serious in asking, SQUEE Feb 2013 #62
I've provided a link that included sources...where are yours? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #64
please see IM SQUEE Feb 2013 #67
I'd rather not clutter my PM inbox with stuff that can't be discussed on this board,.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #75
I gave YOU what you asked, again in respect to this board, I will not post links to firearms sites.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #80
No, I'm not going to be bothered by a PM that contains info that can just as easily.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #88
done.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #91
Yes, you are done. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #96
You can read the hard copy of American Rifle, by Rose... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #76
No thanks...I won't be buying anything that can't be linked in this thread. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #85
Well, here is a thread to peruse (among many re: M-16/15 "tumbling" rounds): Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #117
The jury is still out on hydrostatic shock NickB79 Feb 2013 #23
He's welcome to his opinion, as are you, but there are plenty of others... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #63
Hydrostatic shock is discussed in the knock-down effects of big-game rounds... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #82
But, we're not talking about deer in this thread, are we? Since you and a few others insist..... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #93
Hit once in "equivalent" places with equivalent bullets, I don't know. Deer may run further. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #110
Amendments. You know why there are lots of them? Chorophyll Feb 2013 #19
+10000. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #66
+a million laundry_queen Feb 2013 #144
27 Amendments in over 200 years isn't many... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #212
YES bongbong Feb 2013 #24
+1 laundry_queen Feb 2013 #145
Also rather inconvenient to be counted as merely 3/5ths of a person... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #30
Not interested in bits, but the technology in the First is far more specific than in the Second. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #70
If my computer becomes a threat to you let me know nt Report1212 Feb 2013 #206
How on earth is an AR-15 going to fire 700 rounds in a minute? (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #2
Video here of an ar-15 firing 100 rounds in six seconds Electric Monk Feb 2013 #42
Yes, we've all seen that. Recursion Feb 2013 #43
Well, you asked how is it possible, thucythucy Feb 2013 #79
Yeah, like the monster on Frankenstein's slab. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #84
No, it is absolutely impossible for an AR15 to fire 700 rounds in a minute Recursion Feb 2013 #150
That's kind of like saying that because someone ran a 4 minute mile, they could run a marathon... JVS Feb 2013 #83
The one I shoot at the range sure does not.nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #142
The headline is totally made up. former9thward Feb 2013 #4
"700 to 950 rounds a minute" Animal Chin Feb 2013 #5
You can get a legal attachment to make it basically automatic Report1212 Feb 2013 #152
Yes, but as I said in my post Animal Chin Feb 2013 #154
Aftermarket modification. Deep13 Feb 2013 #209
Yes and yes SirRevolutionary Feb 2013 #6
And a Musket can fire 300 rounds per minute SayWut Feb 2013 #7
The Toyota Camry, which can travel at 8,000 miles per hour... cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #8
theoretically correct bossy22 Feb 2013 #10
OK, it's only about 50 rounds a minute. I guess that makes it no more lethal than Daisy Red Ryder. Hoyt Feb 2013 #12
One per trigger pull, so how many times can you pull the trigger? Bake Feb 2013 #59
Aside from the absurd claim about the firing rate... Daemonaquila Feb 2013 #17
Absurd it is. He also forgot this is 200± years later. Most of us have become more civilized. Hoyt Feb 2013 #20
Personally and if given a choice sweetapogee Feb 2013 #33
Correction... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #181
Can a person pull a trigger 700 times per minute? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #21
LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #26
I seem to get to correct you like 99.9999% of the time. Pholus Feb 2013 #53
Let me know when one is used in a murder. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #55
Once again, irrelevant and stop trying to weasel out on your words. Pholus Feb 2013 #69
Ae you ignorant or just obstinate? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #81
Neither. Merely correct. Unlike you. Pholus Feb 2013 #94
Hey, please keep up your feeble arguement. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #103
Yet only one of us has made verifiably false statements. Pholus Feb 2013 #112
Haha! HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #126
Whatever. Keep it up man! Pholus Feb 2013 #127
well give me a 700 round magazine Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #86
Provide evidence or it doesn't count. Pholus Feb 2013 #98
show me a youtube video of 700 rounds Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #104
Oooooh, it has to be 700 or you winsies? Pholus Feb 2013 #116
Like I said Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #122
You need some math homework. Pholus Feb 2013 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author Pholus Feb 2013 #197
Yes, the RATE can be achieved krispos42 Feb 2013 #192
Cyclic rate of fire is NOT the same as effective rate of fire. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #111
Show me first where the post I responded to made that distinction. nt Pholus Feb 2013 #113
Gunners understand it without it being stated. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #114
Ooooh, I'm penetrating the secret brotherhood of the AR-15 gunner! Pholus Feb 2013 #120
a person can pull a trigger 2 to 4 times a second, probably. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #124
why does the military Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #128
Cause the enemy would die laughing? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #130
maybe because they are TOTALLY lame? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #135
Because they break. All the time. The Aurora shooter had one, and that ended up saving lives Recursion Feb 2013 #151
More than 3 rounds fired automatically, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #129
"And more than a few dozen rounds fired in a single burst damages the weapon." farminator3000 Feb 2013 #134
How many lives would a 10 round limit save? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #137
more than zero is fine with me. but probably thousands. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #139
Thousands? Hyperbole much? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #140
i didn't give a time period. i don'r care if it happens in 10 months or 10 years, as long as it farminator3000 Feb 2013 #141
How about 5 lives/yr for 200years? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #157
sounds great! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #159
OK, 5 lives saved per year is acceptable to you. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #160
sure, hypothetically. but 5 is, of course, unrealisticly low. 5,000 a year sounds good, too farminator3000 Feb 2013 #161
Assault weapons don't kill 5000 per year. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #162
no but guns do. why would a sane person just give assault weapons a pass+reg. the other guns? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #163
I don't need to google a Tech9, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #165
yup, you don't NEED to own one either, so melt 'em all down- plastic crap. so are you farminator3000 Feb 2013 #167
Ban a gun based on looks, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #169
bullshit its an easily convertable 'assault pistol',and it is on the new AWB list where it should be farminator3000 Feb 2013 #171
Oh hogwash... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #175
its the false versions of history that's the annoying thing farminator3000 Feb 2013 #178
really? you are blathering about hurricanes, but not paid by the NRA to repeat such silliness? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #164
I guess you haven't heard of climate change? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #166
no idea what hurricanes have to do with guns farminator3000 Feb 2013 #168
I'm sure you can find remedial reading comprehension tutors on google. nt HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #170
yes but they still won't be able to explain what the hurricane/gun connection is farminator3000 Feb 2013 #172
If your governor called up your state militia kudzu22 Feb 2013 #25
When my state (or Congress) codifies the need for me to show up with a weapon, and jmg257 Feb 2013 #27
The NRA talking heads are just doing their job, representing the gun manufacturing industry AndyA Feb 2013 #28
Yep laundry_queen Feb 2013 #146
Someone please explain to him moondust Feb 2013 #29
So they prove by linking to article about the M16 and AR 15 are the same SpartanDem Feb 2013 #39
Theoretically correct nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #45
So ..as of late you have latched onto the SQUEE Feb 2013 #48
Are you disputing that the Thomson was state of the art? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #50
Are you suggesting I give a fig for anything the NRA has to say? SQUEE Feb 2013 #68
So you don't see the Thompson machine gun thucythucy Feb 2013 #92
a historical relic, an iconic symbol of an era SQUEE Feb 2013 #97
A relic today, thucythucy Feb 2013 #101
Nope, SQUEE Feb 2013 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #119
Not used in WWI as it didn't yet exist. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #143
as already posted, Not used in WWI SQUEE Feb 2013 #149
You know what squee. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #156
NRA Thugs Are Destroying America JoKandice Feb 2013 #51
The American machine gun of WWII fired about 500 rounds per minute, if memory is correct, indepat Feb 2013 #56
Wait a minute its the "nomenclature".......stupid. Historic NY Feb 2013 #77
I think a musket is smooth bore (most militia in the Rev. had rifles). Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #90
Muskets - smooth bores were the military weapon of choice. Historic NY Feb 2013 #95
Yep...hunting rifles and rifle-muskets were reserved for light infantry units who .... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #100
I don't know about "reserved." Rifles were the chief weapon of the militia and frontiersmen. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #105
Militia were outfitted by the Colonial governor, hence the King Historic NY Feb 2013 #121
This assumes that all those who were in the militia got arms from the governor, not traders. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #131
you do a lot of interpretive thinking! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #102
No, just in court rulings and commentary. Study away! Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #106
i'd think you might try and post a line or two of this 'interpretation' of 'yours' farminator3000 Feb 2013 #115
This stuff has been here many times. Check archives. I can't understand your cryptic... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #118
well if you can't understand the definition of the word from the dictionary... farminator3000 Feb 2013 #125
Fat Tony says the Constitution is "dead". That means the 2nd only applies to muskets. Sorry. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #89
Fat Tony thinks the 2nd permits every person to carry what an infantryman carries Peregrine Feb 2013 #133
Well then, Fat Tony is inconsistent, to say the least. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #136
No he doesn't hack89 Feb 2013 #158
To me the most disturbing part of this analogy thucythucy Feb 2013 #99
yes ^^^ I AGREE! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #108
+1. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #147
Really? tjnite Feb 2013 #107
yep. you buy some doohickey for it for $50 farminator3000 Feb 2013 #109
No, a $50 "doohicky" does not make an AR fire 700+ rpm. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #182
whatever, it costs $200-$300,you've already blown all the money on a cheesy gun, what's $2-300 more? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #184
A) Its not $50. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #186
no, it is pointless farminator3000 Feb 2013 #205
Not sure what your 1 million is referencing. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #207
Musket vs. AR-15 rdharma Feb 2013 #138
An AR-15 fires around 60-80 RPM thatwhichisnt Feb 2013 #153
Uh, they aren't interested in facts. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #183
"We're dealing with the Democratic Party's version of ignorant teabaggers." farminator3000 Feb 2013 #204
Uh, both parties are dealing with HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #210
And megaton nuke warheads are just today trebuchet, catapult... what the big deal? JackN415 Feb 2013 #155
Well then maybe the 2nd Amendment should be rewritten "today". SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #173
So by his ridiculous reasoning, the human body should be able to handle 30 or 40 shells 2on2u Feb 2013 #176
The Ford Mustang GT can go from 0 to 60 in 4.8 seconds krispos42 Feb 2013 #190
Awesome-ness Scott.K Feb 2013 #200
What do you need to shoot at 700 rounds per minute? cyberswede Feb 2013 #201
Re: 201 Scott.K Feb 2013 #202
that's really too bad farminator3000 Feb 2013 #203
te:203 Scott.K Feb 2013 #211
bullets are free where you live? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #214
That's a lie. An AR15 cannot fire 700 or any other number of rds-per-minute. Deep13 Feb 2013 #208
deep13 Scott.K Feb 2013 #213
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