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Thanks for the Post Demeter Feb 2013 #1
It would have been interesting to know what put them on to the possibility it was Richard III. mnhtnbb Feb 2013 #2
Simple Glassunion Feb 2013 #3
Haha. Good one. mnhtnbb Feb 2013 #28
They knew the approximate location Posteritatis Feb 2013 #4
both the injury to the skull and certain skeletal anomalies cali Feb 2013 #7
The vicinity of Bosworth Field treestar Feb 2013 #10
He didn't have shit all over him. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #18
Win :) n/t KatyMan Feb 2013 #34
He did get reincarnated as Magneto, though... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #55
And he was sittin' on top of the world... n/t sweetloukillbot Feb 2013 #80
Interesting treestar Feb 2013 #5
sounds like it to me eShirl Feb 2013 #9
It was mitochondrial. cali Feb 2013 #11
thanks for that link treestar Feb 2013 #21
(link from University of Leicester) They traced an all-female line of descent from his sister. eShirl Feb 2013 #35
An interesting figure cali Feb 2013 #6
loved that book! n/t irisblue Feb 2013 #25
+100 truebluegreen Feb 2013 #53
A Horse A Horse, My Burial Place For A Horse! Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #8
I prefer "...my kingdom...for a parkinglot?!!" elehhhhna Feb 2013 #95
the body displayed 10 wounds, 8 of them in the skull Ichingcarpenter Feb 2013 #12
Damn, what a horrible way to die Hayabusa Feb 2013 #39
a pelvic wound likely caused by Ichingcarpenter Feb 2013 #42
I hope that was post-death mutilation... Hayabusa Feb 2013 #50
My guess is that the body was impaled for display. n/t winter is coming Feb 2013 #99
Common enough in those days, and as for the display... Hekate Feb 2013 #75
True, and according to some sources Hayabusa Feb 2013 #78
My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great.. FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #13
Really? He didn't have any legitimate descendants muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #17
Huh? Of course he did. Edward, The Prince of Wales FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #20
Edward died cali Feb 2013 #22
Nothing is certain, of course, but... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #32
Edward, Prince of Wales died before he did muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #23
Thankfully, the Tudor's revisionism was not complete, and their attempt to wipe off the whole line.. FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #27
'Family legend' for one, and the man who was called "the last Plantagenet" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #33
Should I be concerned FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #43
Richard of Eastwell was called "the last Plantagenet" in the Richard III Society link I gave you muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #51
You never can tell JoDog Feb 2013 #101
I wish I could... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #104
Children are never illegitimate me b zola Feb 2013 #38
Was there a claim made that they weren't "legitimate human beings"? FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #46
If you want to defend your calling a child illegitimate me b zola Feb 2013 #48
Once again, was there a claim made that they weren't "legitimate human beings"? FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #49
Well, I am being kind me b zola Feb 2013 #63
No, you're not FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #93
ah yes, the context me b zola Feb 2013 #97
You're the only one fabricating an interpretation out of whole cloth to get offended by here. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #81
Uh-huh me b zola Feb 2013 #86
do you call children not born of a marriage "illegitimate" now? CreekDog Feb 2013 #88
Why do you ask? FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #92
in reference to not being legitimate heir to the throne, I can understand CreekDog Feb 2013 #96
So, you parachuted in on the discussion just to make a moral judgement on me... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #98
if you call a child born in these days outside of marriage "illegitimate", I can call you anything CreekDog Feb 2013 #102
So basically, you just ignore all the facts, the documented legal use, historical precedents... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #103
There's nothing wrong with using the word in a historical discussion. Xithras Feb 2013 #58
Ah, as long as its "historical", right? me b zola Feb 2013 #64
It's a legal term muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #65
Kind of like "illegal alien"? me b zola Feb 2013 #66
It's easy to avoid calling human beings illegitimate. Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #68
Indeed! Choose your slur! me b zola Feb 2013 #70
Frankly, it pisses me off more when one of us thinks "out of wedlock" is a worthy alternative Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #73
Perhaps a therapist could help you with your anger me b zola Feb 2013 #74
You mean other categories of people that I also belong to? Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #79
I am well aware that Bastard Nation is an adoptee rights organization me b zola Feb 2013 #85
Then why did you link to it when the topic wasn't adoptees? Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #90
The earliest recorded use in English is to refer to Elizabeth I muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #71
Again, there were other slurs acceptable at the time me b zola Feb 2013 #76
This is not about you muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #87
3/5's of a person was also a legal term me b zola Feb 2013 #89
No, "three fifths of a person" wasn't actually a legal term muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #91
Found beneath a parking lot? Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #14
Next to Jimmy Hoffa? (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #15
Rich III was probably not found in the trunk of a car. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #16
Or underneath the end zone at Meadowlands Stadium. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #61
Beneath one; close enough. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #83
Indeed!!! greytdemocrat Feb 2013 #19
Or the victim of a 15th century mafia run construction company. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #60
Was there a horse skeleton nearby? No, wait, I guess not . . . hatrack Feb 2013 #24
A Hearse! Wraith20878 Feb 2013 #26
I'm really annoyed at Oliver Cromwell. ;-) JaneFordA Feb 2013 #29
Richard was the last English king to die in battle. Coyotl Feb 2013 #30
...a fitting end to all Kings, that should be extended... bvar22 Feb 2013 #40
spoken by someone who clearly views all history through a simple lens cali Feb 2013 #45
Still having trouble connecting the dots, dear? bvar22 Feb 2013 #62
That is so kewl! ananda Feb 2013 #31
that was interesting, thanks for posting. WI_DEM Feb 2013 #36
since the carpenter didn't know he was related to Richard riverwalker Feb 2013 #37
I have a really dumb question, pardon me: Myrina Feb 2013 #41
No. This was Richard III. He was born in 1452. Was King for 2 years before cali Feb 2013 #47
That was Robert Cecil in Anonymous. Chiyo-chichi Feb 2013 #52
Thanks ! Myrina Feb 2013 #54
Yeah!! Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #44
Too bad he didn't have a gun. Lint Head Feb 2013 #56
Well, since he was not an ordinary citizen it would be ok for him to have one The Straight Story Feb 2013 #57
There's practicality problems with cannons as personal defense weapons, alas. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #82
Putting a parking lot over him seems kind of harsh. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #59
Obviously they didn't know he was there. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #67
When they dug 'im up Richard said flamingdem Feb 2013 #69
Fascinating! Hekate Feb 2013 #72
Wonder what the cost of his exit ticket from the garge will be,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?? benld74 Feb 2013 #77
Looking at the short vid of the skeleton in situ Hekate Feb 2013 #84
Fascinating! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #94
Cool! I was waiting on this news TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #100
So interesting. Years ago I belonged to the Richard III Society because I love history Raine Feb 2013 #105
"fueding amongst the membership as they fought for control and leadership." Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #106
as a child in England I imagined he was cute Skittles Feb 2013 #107
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