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Deep13

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10. It only has to have an effect on interstate commerce.

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:19 PM

Feb 2013

If I buy a gun in state A that was made in state B, it will in some small way increase the demand for that state B product. And if the raw materials came from state C and the truck that delivered them drives through state D with tires made in state E....

SCOTUS has taken this view for about 200 years now.

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I think one of the reasons the NRA is harping on the 'background check' issue is because... [View all] Tx4obama Feb 2013 OP

+10000. Merely enacting stricter BG checks, while better than nothing, still ignores these weapon Hoyt Feb 2013 #1

The background checks will prevent unregulated straw men... Deep13 Feb 2013 #2

I'm not saying that back ground checks aren't important, they are. But ... Tx4obama Feb 2013 #3

The current Federal laws against straw buying aren't working now Lurks Often Feb 2013 #7

But you can still do it by calling it a personal transfer. Deep13 Feb 2013 #9

But if nobody enforces the law Lurks Often Feb 2013 #14

It is enforced. The FBI check is a precondition for a lawful... Deep13 Feb 2013 #17

I disagree as to the effectiveness of a NICS check Lurks Often Feb 2013 #20

Anyone who can get heroin will also always be able to get a gun. That's not what this is about Recursion Feb 2013 #39

Please stop with these worn out arguments. They are used by the NRA and we don't need CTyankee Feb 2013 #18

I'm not saying nothing can be done, Lurks Often Feb 2013 #19

but what I'd like to not see you stop there. It implies "oh, too bad..." and nothing more. CTyankee Feb 2013 #21

Release non-violent drug offenders Lurks Often Feb 2013 #23

Good ideas! CTyankee Feb 2013 #25

It isn't so much my theory, but Lurks Often Feb 2013 #35

And . . . it wouldn't be effective. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #4

Yup, if Congress tries to regulate in state, private sales through the Commerce Clause, Lurks Often Feb 2013 #6

It only has to have an effect on interstate commerce. Deep13 Feb 2013 #10

We're getting deep into legalese with this, Lurks Often Feb 2013 #13

The states don't have to agree. Deep13 Feb 2013 #16

Bingo. They know they will lose on something. So they offer that issue up. applegrove Feb 2013 #5

I think the opposite. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #8

But my OP wasn't about which is more useful, it's about how the NRA is trying to put ... Tx4obama Feb 2013 #12

I know. I was just commenting on that particular statement. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #15

If you think an AWB is useful, you'd be incorrect. krispos42 Feb 2013 #11

Let's not get into drug laws here, altho there is a huge connection in inner city violence. I just CTyankee Feb 2013 #22

Why not? krispos42 Feb 2013 #24

THis falls under the "art of the possible" which is what politics is. CTyankee Feb 2013 #29

Here is what is driving me absolutely up a wall. krispos42 Feb 2013 #37

good. Have you contacted your own reps/sens with these suggestions? CTyankee Feb 2013 #38

No,I do all my griping and such on DU. krispos42 Feb 2013 #40

well, we're not going to change the laws here at DU, are we? CTyankee Feb 2013 #41

Yes they do commit crimes because they have a gun. Zimmerman would have sat in his car without a gun Hoyt Feb 2013 #31

So says you. krispos42 Feb 2013 #36

Despite your support for Zimmie, I think he was just another chicken chit bolstered by his gun. Hoyt Feb 2013 #43

My support for Zimmerman? krispos42 Feb 2013 #44

They are relying on everyone having ADDHD... liberal N proud Feb 2013 #26

I agree. Zimmerman, Loughner, Holmes, Stawicki, etc., had legal weapons and some had permits. Hoyt Feb 2013 #27

Right, but the AWB addresses 0% of the problem Recursion Feb 2013 #32

No, a new AWB -- "A" defined as semi-autos -- will all but shut down the gun industry. Hoyt Feb 2013 #33

A semi-auto ban would accomplish something. Get somebody to introduce one (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #34

Actually was listening to an NPR program where they had an NRA supporter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #28

Background checks are much much much more important and a much better idea Recursion Feb 2013 #30

Fine. Get to your reps/sens and let them know EXACTLY what you have said here! CTyankee Feb 2013 #42

My Rep can't vote and I have no Senators Recursion Feb 2013 #46

That is a shame. And a national disgrace. CTyankee Feb 2013 #47

It would hurt sales to Mexican drug cartels. moondust Feb 2013 #45