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cbayer

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21. I do blame the abusers and their protectors and did real work with them as well.

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:05 PM

Feb 2013

It's also important that those who may share some identification with the perpetrators take a very hard stand against them, as has been done by many progressive and liberal religious people and organizations (and may be happening more within the Catholic church, as was seen in Los Angeles today).

And there are many anti-theists who will loudly deny any kind of personal abuse whatsoever. They just somehow have a "truth", much like a one-way fundamentalist.

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A question about how Christians are perceived: [View all] hedgehog Feb 2013 OP

Episcopalian here wryter2000 Feb 2013 #1

Judge Christians by their actions. upaloopa Feb 2013 #2

I guess why I'm asking the question is I'm wondering why so many people have hedgehog Feb 2013 #3

My answer to that question is that they find upaloopa Feb 2013 #6

There are splitters and there are lumpers. cbayer Feb 2013 #4

Being abused by conservative churches is what hurts the causes, not the victims of that abuse. Lars39 Feb 2013 #10

If one is abused by a schoolteacher, does one then have the right to attack and condemn cbayer Feb 2013 #12

More like learned response. Lars39 Feb 2013 #13

Not blaming the victim. I support the victims and did real work with them. cbayer Feb 2013 #16

You would do better to blame the abusers. Lars39 Feb 2013 #17

I do blame the abusers and their protectors and did real work with them as well. cbayer Feb 2013 #21

Look at the Supreme Court Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #5

But that is a poor way to describe all Catholics. upaloopa Feb 2013 #8

And there are many like your brother. cbayer Feb 2013 #9

Do you mean he is far away from the 5 crazy conservatives or far away from the 2 who are Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #19

My brother supports liberation theology and always has upaloopa Feb 2013 #28

That's interesting... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #20

I DEFINITELY perceive liberal denominations differently from the "crazy" ones. . . . BigDemVoter Feb 2013 #7

The RCC in particular's probably incredibly location-specific for its members, too Posteritatis Feb 2013 #18

Most people who are not in some organized religion have no idea that one is supposed to be Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #11

The only way I differentiate between the sects is by their actions odiumestpuritas Feb 2013 #14

The fundamentalists and evangelicals have hijacked the word "Christian" to refer only to themselves Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #15

I think your answer is here odiumestpuritas Feb 2013 #22

I am an atheist who was raised in a fundamentalist baptist home OriginalGeek Feb 2013 #23

Jimmy Carter is a Southern BAptist left behind by a denomination lurching ever to the Right. hedgehog Feb 2013 #29

No, not really...I don't know anything about any religions... Tikki Feb 2013 #24

Merely different extremes in self-delusion. mr blur Feb 2013 #25

I am from a liberal Lutheran church and I do see the difference. Years ago while talking about jwirr Feb 2013 #26

Years ago, perhaps. But today direction comes from the conservatives. SharonAnn Feb 2013 #27

IMO that is their loss. jwirr Feb 2013 #30

I make it a practice to avoid people that describe themselves as "Christian" doc03 Feb 2013 #31

The next time you visit your physician, ask for irony supplements. 11 Bravo Feb 2013 #32

I think people that call a huge group of incredibly diverse people cbayer Feb 2013 #33

I am not talking about the average Catholic, Presbyterian, doc03 Feb 2013 #35

Thank you for making the distinction, because that's not what it sounded like. cbayer Feb 2013 #37

I understand why people find value in religious affiliation RainDog Feb 2013 #34

I shouldn't have to have any opinion of them at all. Unfortunately forestpath Feb 2013 #36

After host discussion it was agreed this is a religion thread Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #38