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In reply to the discussion: Assange to run for Australian senate: WikiLeaks (AFP) [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)46. If his dad gets the Wikileaks party going, and the majority want them to be in a coalition, he could
be grandfathered into party leadership in time.
Maybe I've been reading too much about how the GOP has been running elections and the red states to believe anything is impossible now. If their actions would be found illegal by a court, they load the courts and get away with it. We have a thorough infestation that goes through all levels of government that match the will of the voters in their states.
I don't think Australia is anywhere near as confused, but at this point, I'm unable to say laws are a barrier to conduct. That Julian has remained free while giving the finger to international law, says a great deal. Any attempt to force the law upon him is seen as tyranny.
The masses do not support the law that is holding him from traveling. There is no punishment for anyone unless the masses call for something to be done and that can be a blessing and a curse. If the voters of Australia believe the rhetoric online, they would thumb their noses at those regulations. And the Wikileaks party could change the law. I think some people want the law to get out of this and allow him to go on his way.
I'm not in government, don't know much about Australia other than what people I know who live there, as citizens tell me, and what I see online. What the popular sentiment there is about Julian, I don't know, but emotions change laws.
I'm just saying never say never. I've never seen anything like this circus. I mean, look at O.J. (not comparing the charges, though), who had to surrender in a few hours. The British government has not seen fit to take Assange into custody. Something is holding them back. Since nations make wars, which are violent, they're not afraid of a bit of commotion.
Which means to laymen such as myself, they don't much care about Sweden's court or the treaty, or are listening to the throngs who want Assange to be set at liberty without going through extradition. His fans worldwide don't believe in any of that, and everyday he is not taken in custody is seen as a victory for what they have done online and in the streets.
I don't believe Assange will ever return to Sweden or be tried for anything, period. The government seems powerless. This has gone on too long, when it's out of the public eye, he'll probably fly home.
JMHO.
Maybe I've been reading too much about how the GOP has been running elections and the red states to believe anything is impossible now. If their actions would be found illegal by a court, they load the courts and get away with it. We have a thorough infestation that goes through all levels of government that match the will of the voters in their states.
I don't think Australia is anywhere near as confused, but at this point, I'm unable to say laws are a barrier to conduct. That Julian has remained free while giving the finger to international law, says a great deal. Any attempt to force the law upon him is seen as tyranny.
The masses do not support the law that is holding him from traveling. There is no punishment for anyone unless the masses call for something to be done and that can be a blessing and a curse. If the voters of Australia believe the rhetoric online, they would thumb their noses at those regulations. And the Wikileaks party could change the law. I think some people want the law to get out of this and allow him to go on his way.
I'm not in government, don't know much about Australia other than what people I know who live there, as citizens tell me, and what I see online. What the popular sentiment there is about Julian, I don't know, but emotions change laws.
I'm just saying never say never. I've never seen anything like this circus. I mean, look at O.J. (not comparing the charges, though), who had to surrender in a few hours. The British government has not seen fit to take Assange into custody. Something is holding them back. Since nations make wars, which are violent, they're not afraid of a bit of commotion.
Which means to laymen such as myself, they don't much care about Sweden's court or the treaty, or are listening to the throngs who want Assange to be set at liberty without going through extradition. His fans worldwide don't believe in any of that, and everyday he is not taken in custody is seen as a victory for what they have done online and in the streets.
I don't believe Assange will ever return to Sweden or be tried for anything, period. The government seems powerless. This has gone on too long, when it's out of the public eye, he'll probably fly home.
JMHO.
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and links! links are good! plus it's in today's news! some people actually read links and news!
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#3
Aw, c'mon! I offered lots of options: a US conspiracy theory! a heroic image of Julian's
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#7
How clever! An implied personal attack! You must have a lot of intertube experience!
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#9
I'm disappointed no one has taken me up on my list of senators leaving the USA.
freshwest
Jan 2013
#35
I suppose you mean that you don't much care for informative links, since
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#45
You think he'll push through a constitutional amendment or a change in election law before Sept?
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#40
If his dad gets the Wikileaks party going, and the majority want them to be in a coalition, he could
freshwest
Jan 2013
#46
I hope he wins. Then there will be at least one politician who doesn't belong in jaiil.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2013
#22
It's a safer bet that the Brits will continue to do America's dirty work and keep him locked up.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2013
#24
He hasn't been in Her Majesty's custody since Thu 16 Dec 10: he was arrested Tues 7 Dec 10
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#30
Uh-huh. He can leave the embassy and go anywhere without interference..right?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2013
#37
He's jumped bail and is a fugitive. If he leaves the embassy, he should be treated as any other. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#41
There are various theories about why Assange does not leave the embassy. William Blum,
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#43
I know! It's so shamelessly brazen of me! Just who do I think I am, pointing out
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#36
Uh oh. You've incurred the wrath of the folks who still believe Julian Assange.
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2013
#29