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upaloopa

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59. If you need some fucking organization to teach

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:47 PM

Jan 2013

your kid what you should be teaching them you shouldn't have kids.

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Missouri bill would require gun safety course in first grade [View all] proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 OP

This, is a sick country. It's just absolutely a seriously disturbed country. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #1

I cannot agree with you more. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #50

Gun safety should be offered at an older age, and be voluntary. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #2

That age or younger seems right and should be mandatory TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #6

I taught a class of fellow jr hi students on the safe use of a pump shotgun... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #12

Early on it should be safety and awareness. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #67

This could work, though there needs to be a serious Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #74

We are born sexual beings. We are not born gunners. upaloopa Jan 2013 #54

I don't see how that matters when one is born into a world with them TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #66

I don't know. Every kid should probably hear "If you see a gun, don't touch it", very early Recursion Jan 2013 #14

You can tell your kid that in a few minutes. upaloopa Jan 2013 #57

Accidents with found firearms have killed more kids... Recursion Jan 2013 #63

Very early SailorMike Jan 2013 #68

obsured! PrezHillary2016 Jan 2013 #3

My first thought was NO! But then I really stop to think about it, DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #4

But not in 1st grade proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #5

When I was a camp counselor, I taught riflery to kids Rhiannon12866 Jan 2013 #8

They aren't being taught to use guns. The GunSafe program is the "Don't touch Do tell" thing Recursion Jan 2013 #13

It all depends on who the teacher is proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #20

I wonder how many would invite him into their home to volunteer LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #7

Sex ed and gun ed, it's all about safety and 'kids will do it anyway' The Straight Story Jan 2013 #9

Home safety courses are a lot different from mandating it for 1st graders at school. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #10

Exactly. It's a handout to the gun industry. Robb Jan 2013 #11

Seems to be. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #21

What? Third Doctor Jan 2013 #15

What's wrong with kids having a class that says "don't touch a gun if you see one"? Recursion Jan 2013 #16

While we all hate the NRA, the Eddie Eagle Gun Safe program is actually really good Recursion Jan 2013 #17

That's a great program Berserker Jan 2013 #49

If I'm expected to be a cop, am I going to be paid as one? Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #18

Totally phucked up...gun safety is one thing, forcing NRA sponsored propganda joeybee12 Jan 2013 #19

Point us to gun safety information from the Brady Campaign or VPC, will you? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #22

Yeah, let's get it from a terrorist organization because that's better joeybee12 Jan 2013 #23

I hate the NRA, but the Eddie Eagle program *is* better than nothing. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #25

Their focus is not gun safety, and if we didn't have scum like the NRA joeybee12 Jan 2013 #26

So what? Ignorance is *not* strength, especially in re kids and guns. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #31

Yet not better than parental involvement... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #39

If you seek empathy for the NRA from me, you're looking at the wrong person... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #53

If you need some fucking organization to teach upaloopa Jan 2013 #59

Those kids are with us, like it or not, so *somebody* needs to give them safety education. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #61

Exactly, keep Wayne LaPierre, Teddy Nugent and the right wing NRA away from children. Hoyt Jan 2013 #34

The NRA shouldn't be allowed to teach the class. gulliver Jan 2013 #58

So the solution to a mass shooting of kindergartners is to teach them how to shoot. Initech Jan 2013 #24

They'll be teaching them to not touch guns and tell an adult if they see one. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #27

False equivalency. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #30

Accidents with found guns kill a LOT more kids than mass shootings Recursion Jan 2013 #70

Sex Ed in first grade, but not gun safety. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #28

I can certainly understand your reticence to teach a wholly natural aspect of biological sciences LanternWaste Jan 2013 #41

Nicely done! Take my words, change them, and then argue against them. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #45

All in a process to normalize guns as a normal to every family object. Whovian Jan 2013 #29

They are too common to not have this training. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #35

I have no problem with telling first graders to report if they see a gun.. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #32

They have evacuation and action plans for school fires, Why JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #33

Because we don't currently spend 8 hours on the art of Reading instruction proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #37

Seems you spent 4 years in college to learn that SQUEE Jan 2013 #44

I'm not opposed to the training proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #46

I do agree, I think hardening classrooms is a better idea. SQUEE Jan 2013 #47

I don't read that Berserker Jan 2013 #51

Good idea! Crepuscular Jan 2013 #36

Should they then teach safety for any and all consumer products which are not toys LanternWaste Jan 2013 #42

Within reason Crepuscular Jan 2013 #56

The idea of teaching kid not to play with guns is good,but.. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #38

Stop / Don't touch / Leave the area and / Tell an adult Buns_of_Fire Jan 2013 #40

I have taught such classes sarisataka Jan 2013 #43

How is this a bad thing??? slutticus Jan 2013 #48

You teach your kid gun lore and leave other people's kids alone. upaloopa Jan 2013 #52

What 'paradigm' is that, and do you have any evidence that said paradigm actually exists? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #55

Can you reply without it being a question? upaloopa Jan 2013 #60

Of course you're not- you can't handle anything but unquestioning acceptance. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #62

Thank God my Missouri Legislature is working HARD to make Missouri a better place in which to live! benld74 Jan 2013 #64

No no no !!! It is the NRA program. Tx4obama Jan 2013 #65

Like them or not (and I certainly don't), they're the ONLY people teaching gun safety. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #69

Excellent and I hope other states will follow - lynne Jan 2013 #71

The most disturbing thing about this LWolf Jan 2013 #72

I don't disagree that it's not proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #75

A lot of my students take gun safety courses. LWolf Feb 2013 #80

Why not start teaching them in pre-school? lunatica Jan 2013 #73

"Tell an adult" HockeyMom Jan 2013 #76

What makes you think teachers will be handling guns? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #77

If a loaded gun if found in a school, HockeyMom Jan 2013 #78

How would you know it was loaded if no one handles it? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #79