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legaleagle_45

(43 posts)
40. Perhaps
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jan 2013

But in Jefferson's defense, the quote was issued prior to Thoreau, Gandhi or Martin Luther King. What Jefferson favored was a politically active population rather than one of sheep. Thus this quote from the same letter:

And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?


He was condemning what he considered an overreaction to Shays' Rebellion. So what was Shays' Rebellion? Massachusetts was burdened with war debt which needed to be paid in gold so it required property taxes to be paid in a similar fashion. Many farmers in rural Massachusetts were unable to pay so a whole bunch of foreclosures were instituted the consequence being that these people would lose there homes and their farms. A group of persons protested this set of affairs and "occupied" a court house to prevent the foreclosures from proceeding. The only difference between them and the Occupy Wall Street folks is that they also happened to have muskets. They did not kill anyone and the only deaths that occurred were the result of a warning shot fired by the militia forces of Massachusetts at the protesters that fell short into the midsts of the rebels (protesters), killing two of them.

Which is why Jefferson said of the affair:

And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted?


I think this is what Jefferson had in mind and would have considered the Occupy Protesters or the Civil Rights movement of the 60's or the anti war movement as of the same lineage as Shays' Rebellion and something which is a good thing as it keeps the leaders honest and mindful of the people...

Call me a Jefferson apologist, LOL

8 years of that stress ages people enough Recursion Jan 2013 #1
W proved that it's a good idea. nt pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #2
So true. nick of time Jan 2013 #14
thats fine and dandy EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #3
lol. So you are living in "Barack Obama world" eh? redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #4
I recall some repubs making a similar argument during reagan's second term onenote Jan 2013 #5
Remember, there was no restriction until after FDR. The Repubs.changed it graham4anything Jan 2013 #6
carry it forward? green for victory Jan 2013 #8
+100 Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #27
Not true at all MattBaggins Jan 2013 #23
+1,000,000 thelordofhell Jan 2013 #30
Absolutely MattBaggins Jan 2013 #34
Should there be any minimum qualifications for someone to hold office? onenote Jan 2013 #36
Actually the age one could be lowered and would change nothing MattBaggins Jan 2013 #37
What if Bloomberg runs? Union Scribe Jan 2013 #7
I am supporting HIllary45. It's time for a woman.(being that Barack Obama can't run a 3rd time). graham4anything Jan 2013 #9
You think your one vote fishiefish Jan 2013 #10
I never waste a vote. Reading all my anti-Ralph Nader posts should make that obvious graham4anything Jan 2013 #11
Nader being a spoiler for 2000 fishiefish Jan 2013 #12
Hillary45 for the continuation of President Obama, then Michelle46 graham4anything Jan 2013 #13
You know? That's not very imaginative or forward thinking. fishiefish Jan 2013 #15
You just told him his one vote doesn't matter now you think he has the power to crown someone JaneyVee Jan 2013 #17
this shouldn't be the age of Obama. actslikeacarrot Jan 2013 #18
AMEN to that! fishiefish Jan 2013 #19
I agree liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #20
If only Jerry Brown won in 1992, but Paul Tsongas and a smear ruined that. graham4anything Jan 2013 #22
it's not good enough anymore liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #25
Who does the funding? The house. that is why the need to win the house back is important. graham4anything Jan 2013 #31
funding education has never been a top priority for either party liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #39
Hmmm, imagine everyone said that. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #16
Historical side note. legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #21
Jefferson's stupidest quote but loved by Freepers MattBaggins Jan 2013 #24
Perhaps legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #40
I would too pauldemmd195j Jan 2013 #26
OMG Here comes the Hillary Ardent Supporters Network™ leftstreet Jan 2013 #29
Who said we live in a democracy? I thought it was a representative republic... NightWatcher Jan 2013 #28
I never said we did. I said IF we did graham4anything Jan 2013 #32
Pure Democracies are little more than mob rule NightWatcher Jan 2013 #33
A republic MattBaggins Jan 2013 #35
If you lived in a "perfect democracy", why would the president matter? hughee99 Jan 2013 #38
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