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liberal_at_heart

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116. You can fight for humane treatment of livestock without
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:20 AM
Jan 2013

telling people they shouldn't eat meat. Eating meat or not eating meat is a personal decision and you cannot make that decision for someone.

no idea but why do non meat eaters feel the need to lecture or moralise. i think its a two way stre loli phabay Jan 2013 #1
Defensive for just asking a question? MoonRiver Jan 2013 #4
personally i dont care if someone dosent eat meat same as its none of their business if i cut the loli phabay Jan 2013 #7
I am a vegetarian and I do not lecture to anyone RebelOne Jan 2013 #13
yup thats the best attitude loli phabay Jan 2013 #15
why are MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #2
I just asked if a picture could change somebody's opinion. MoonRiver Jan 2013 #6
no, you asked MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #18
So you just wanted numbers? sylvi Jan 2013 #35
I would say don't worry about whether a picture would change somebody's opinion liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #62
oking your finger in someone's eye isn't a sign of being defensive at all. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #132
That seems to be one of the rules of veganism jmowreader Jan 2013 #187
...because we're animals and need lots of protein for various DU wars. BlueJazz Jan 2013 #3
And i must say donco Jan 2013 #14
LOL! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #148
Why are those who don't so ambivalent about agricultural deforestation? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #5
Just food for thought yewberry Jan 2013 #20
You don't grow food to feed my meat NoOneMan Jan 2013 #26
But the acreage used to produce that meat... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #89
I support thousands of bambis, plus antelope, elk, coyote, bear, wild turkey, feral pigs, quail, DeschutesRiver Jan 2013 #173
80% or more of soy production is used for animal feed. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #24
Yeah, thats stupid. I think 40% of corn....another 40% goes to fuel NoOneMan Jan 2013 #28
2% of corn goes to direct human consumption and 8% towards additives Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #36
Ultimately it isn't a solution NoOneMan Jan 2013 #41
Yeah, yeah. I know. Everyone on DU either eats humanely raised meat or hunts their own. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #40
No, they don't NoOneMan Jan 2013 #44
that is how it seems stuntcat Jan 2013 #162
My meat is purely free range grassfed grown a mile from my home... peacebird Jan 2013 #47
Ok, I give up on you dedicated meat eaters. MoonRiver Jan 2013 #8
Give up trying to do what, exactly? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #32
if you thought you were going to convert duers, it probably was going to be a long shot quinnox Jan 2013 #42
Are you trying to change minds here? nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #43
That's ok, I gave up on Mormons myself (nt) The Straight Story Jan 2013 #46
I know that feeling backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #110
If I graphically described and showed you pictures of what plants actually go through jeff47 Jan 2013 #59
Or, would you stop drinking? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #133
Just like I wouldn't judge you if you had an abortion, it is your choice MiniMe Jan 2013 #67
Thrilled. WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #160
. stuntcat Jan 2013 #167
Thank you. HappyMe Jan 2013 #168
Everything that anybody eats was once alive panader0 Jan 2013 #9
Knock off the dualism, either/or skirmishing. We be omnivores. Teeth and digestive tract prove it. ancianita Jan 2013 #10
THANK YOU! laundry_queen Jan 2013 #21
Don't want to argue, only wish to correct a factual error in your post. Doremus Jan 2013 #38
You are wrong. It's not a fact. laundry_queen Jan 2013 #51
You'll excuse me if I take the word of credentialed authorities Doremus Jan 2013 #70
Not irrefutable. You didn't even read my post did you? laundry_queen Jan 2013 #82
Lot's of opinions tama Jan 2013 #159
Your brain is made of fat, the fats from meat and seafood Viva_La_Revolution Jan 2013 #97
There are plenty of environmental and health issues about the production of meat and Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #29
The environmental arguments of eating farmed meat beat any others IMO NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39
Don't own a cell phone. There are lots of things that I don't own Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #50
Thats great for you NoOneMan Jan 2013 #53
Our teeth and jaws are puny, compared to real predators. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #118
that's because we have an opposable thumb liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #120
Totally with you on that. But we do still have four canines for tearing meat. Just sayin.' ancianita Jan 2013 #122
Did you miss "omnivores" in the post you replied to? FBaggins Jan 2013 #128
Nope, saw it. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #140
There's substantial evidence that as we learned to cook our food - including meat... trotsky Jan 2013 #153
+1 liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #154
That doesn't seem consistent with the process of natural selection. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #156
It meant that those individuals who possessed a gene mutation... trotsky Jan 2013 #157
+1 tama Jan 2013 #165
Perhaps the female neanderthals found males with narrow jaws and larger skulls to be more attractive FBaggins Jan 2013 #158
I did think of sexual selection. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #161
Chimpanzees eat meat tama Jan 2013 #169
We eat cooked food tama Jan 2013 #164
so one person started spamming dumb threads quinnox Jan 2013 #11
I think most people get defensive when they get a sense that they are singled out. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #12
I eat meat and I'm not defensive about it at all tkmorris Jan 2013 #16
I don't like to eat mammals because humans are mammals, Jeevus Jan 2013 #17
i share this view sigmasix Jan 2013 #103
Can't imagine why you would think anyone is "defensive" FBaggins Jan 2013 #19
Because anytime anyone posts anything in defense of animals OR the benefits of a vegetable Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #27
And why is that defensive? FBaggins Jan 2013 #45
Shoving a photo of a bloody piece of meat into the face of someone who Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #78
it isn't defensive at all. It's going on the offense FBaggins Jan 2013 #87
Ah no. An OP advancing a vegetable based diet is the offense. Bloody meat is the defense. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #93
It's good to see that you recognize vegans are offensive! Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #104
Ha! Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #108
that does not make you superior to others. liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #112
What you eat, if what you eat is controlled by the corporate food industry, does indeed Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #115
You can fight for humane treatment of livestock without liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #116
Certainly. And telling people they shouldn't use lead paint was largely ineffectual for decades Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #121
well I'm glad your self rightousness keeps you warm at night liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #123
Yes... you "have a say"... FBaggins Jan 2013 #141
Food activists, like the most activist movement, start out with the vast majority on the other side. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #145
You keep using that false example. FBaggins Jan 2013 #150
Since I've been a child, I was mocked for preferring vegetables... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #22
Sigh. jeff47 Jan 2013 #73
Good post. nt laundry_queen Jan 2013 #83
*Sigh* lead was an additive and not necessary. Most of the western world abandoned lead Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #90
So, your memory of commercials is supposed to replace basic chemistry then? jeff47 Jan 2013 #94
I grasp the chemistry. I also grasp why the rest of the western world abandoned lead Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #101
Actually, the US effectively banned leaded gas in 1975 jeff47 Jan 2013 #174
It should have been banned long before then. It's toxicity from the getgo Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #179
IMO, the best way to advance vegetarianism: Open a good veget. Restaurant... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #155
There are quite a few great vegetarian restaurants in San Francisco and most others Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #163
Now you have gone TOO FAR! FBaggins Jan 2013 #172
Sounds good. Hope to get a feral pig soon. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #182
Are you hunting pig or is it a gift? Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #184
Hunting, when the opportunity arises. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #185
Good observation :) kentauros Jan 2013 #170
The place I go to doesn't have an extensive menu, but Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #183
I am here and I eat meat and I'm not defensive. Lex Jan 2013 #23
"Democratic" specifically refers to the political party Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #25
+1000 Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #60
Heh. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #30
Defensive? Iggo Jan 2013 #31
Me? Defensive?! Nuh-uh! nt Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #33
I am a vegetarian, and I see more vegetarians in the face of non-vegetarians then the reverse still_one Jan 2013 #34
Exactly. "Miltiant Veganism" is a proudly self-identified movement sir pball Jan 2013 #144
You "should" on people, they tend to get defensive Warpy Jan 2013 #37
Sounds like "Why did you stop beating your wife?" NT Bonobo Jan 2013 #48
Defensive? That's what my gun is for! How else will I kill my meat? kwassa Jan 2013 #49
Bwahahaha Matariki Jan 2013 #52
Because Vegans can be JUST as defensive and unreasonable. DainBramaged Jan 2013 #54
Well, there's always the fact that humans are omnivores. longship Jan 2013 #55
BRB doccraig67 Jan 2013 #56
You should really consider pan frying that ribeye. sadbear Jan 2013 #100
we're not defensive pscot Jan 2013 #57
As an omnivore, I don't get the argument me b zola Jan 2013 #58
because we don't like to be proselytized to liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #61
Vegetarians also don't like being proselytized to. Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #63
Then don't mention it. Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #64
Then don't mention it. Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #68
WTF? Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #76
Your post #64 sounds like the rationalization many anti-gay bigots express Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #77
And atheists get this also, right? Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #81
Where did I imply that you were homophobic? Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #84
Ah, I see what you did there. Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #85
I made no such implication. Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #88
Don't you dare compare the two. name not needed Jan 2013 #113
sounds just like the argument that evangelical Christians make liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #114
I'm not comparing being gay to eating meat! Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #126
+1 nt Tree-Hugger Jan 2013 #166
Then don't mention it. Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #69
never tell anybody what I had for dinner unless they ask liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #65
and how often does that happen? FBaggins Jan 2013 #66
Happens plenty, Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #74
not really FBaggins Jan 2013 #79
+10,000 davidpdx Jan 2013 #72
Time to fortify the defenses guardian Jan 2013 #71
Thanks, now I'm hungry.....n/t kudzu22 Jan 2013 #96
Maybe because we don't like being told we are basically evil. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #75
What people eat is their own business Marrah_G Jan 2013 #80
Isn't it amazing how hard that seems to be for some people to understand ? FBaggins Jan 2013 #91
I don't know about other Democrats, but this one is not ashamed of eating meat. sadbear Jan 2013 #86
I don't know, but I have noticed that most meat eaters are really defensive about it. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #92
We know that given your druthers customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #95
I don't give a shit what you think about meat. Just stay away from mine. Throd Jan 2013 #98
Rib steak! aquart Jan 2013 #99
Defensiveness is a response to offensiveness. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #102
I'm not. I am, however, in awe of the stupidness of PETA (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #105
It makes us mean libodem Jan 2013 #106
because of we weren't so vigilantly defensive, we'd be overrun by the meat. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #107
Whatever you're defending or offending, I highly recommend this great book. ancianita Jan 2013 #109
Why are some vegetarians so offensive? The Second Stone Jan 2013 #111
Maybe we aren't. Maybe those who don't eat meat are just a wee bit overly JDPriestly Jan 2013 #117
I don't know. I've been a vegetarian since I was a kid and never hassled a meat eater. I wish I Raine Jan 2013 #119
thank you for your consideration liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #124
YES! FINALLY! Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #125
Good grief! HappyMe Jan 2013 #130
That was the old days. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #180
No, August is Hiroshima month cemaphonic Jan 2013 #175
I'm having my pet bunny "Fred" for dinner Jersey Devil Jan 2013 #127
I don't care what anyone eats as long as they're not trying to cook me as long pig. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #129
"DEMOCRATIC" is a political party. HappyMe Jan 2013 #131
Democratic is also an adjective. MoonRiver Jan 2013 #135
Cute picture wouldn't change my mind. HappyMe Jan 2013 #136
It's an adjective with a reality behind it. FBaggins Jan 2013 #139
I'm not. LWolf Jan 2013 #134
That's strange. ananda Jan 2013 #137
I love meat. Chicken mostly, but I'm also fond of Pork, Beef, and Artichokes. nt el_bryanto Jan 2013 #138
Why do so many people make moronic generalizations? Just asking, honey. cali Jan 2013 #142
What does diet have to do with politics? KamaAina Jan 2013 #143
I only eat Republican beef, pork, or poultry. And yours may just be the ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #146
Wait....all Democrats are supposed to be vegan? Bettie Jan 2013 #147
I am not LuckyTheDog Jan 2013 #149
I'm here. I eat meat. I am Democratic. 99Forever Jan 2013 #151
Why are vegetarians such sactimonious jerks? abelenkpe Jan 2013 #152
What are you talking about? Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #171
Don't act so innocent... Rider3 Jan 2013 #176
I'm an omnivore , Silentnomore Jan 2013 #177
Half of the time Recursion Jan 2013 #178
It's the way humans are. We're built to eat both. sakabatou Jan 2013 #181
I've never been healthier since becoming a vegan whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #186
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