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Lurks Often

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87. We're not going to agree,

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:45 PM

Jan 2013

but seriously "millions upon millions of gun owners in the country are killing other people left and right"? Exaggerate much?

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A proposal for dealing with the potentially dangerous mentally ill [View all] Lurks Often Jan 2013 OP

Our mental health resources are totally inadequate to do this at this time. kickysnana Jan 2013 #1

It is not a list Lurks Often Jan 2013 #17

Two people I know with health insurance have been unable to get kickysnana Jan 2013 #75

this is a horrendous idea that deprives citizens of due process. cali Jan 2013 #2

How so? Lurks Often Jan 2013 #6

yes, and medical professionals are just so infallible cali Jan 2013 #82

I agree with you Lurks Often Jan 2013 #86

Anything to deflect from the root of the problem Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #3

An unproductive answer Lurks Often Jan 2013 #7

And YOUR answer is productive? Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #10

So you have nothing Lurks Often Jan 2013 #14

Allow me to retort Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #23

Congress thinks otherwise, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #26

More 'resistance is futile?' Is that all ya got? Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #31

Going to have to disagree Lurks Often Jan 2013 #39

Many of us consider mental illness a root cause hack89 Jan 2013 #8

Ah, we meet again... Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #13

I would start with mental health services first hack89 Jan 2013 #19

Of course you would Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #25

Why don't you ask NY - they are implementing a mental health database. hack89 Jan 2013 #32

It does have value, but it is not the be-all & end-all Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #33

Cracking down on gun trafficking is an excellent idea hack89 Jan 2013 #48

Making it more costly to obtain a firearm just makes it more difficult for the poor. The rich will DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #61

Certainly disarming the entire population would be MUCH more effective. jmg257 Jan 2013 #15

And a determination of Lanza needing a hold would have helped how exactly? jmg257 Jan 2013 #4

Unknown at this time since the final police report has not been released. Lurks Often Jan 2013 #9

Ofcourse nothing is going to get through Congress. The NRA and their dupes jmg257 Jan 2013 #11

I worry a lot more about the "potentially dangerous" normal people. bemildred Jan 2013 #5

Just about every day you put your live in the hands of strangers Lurks Often Jan 2013 #12

I can tell you a more realistic threat - distracted drivers. Denninmi Jan 2013 #18

Exactly Lurks Often Jan 2013 #21

I guess I don't understand why this is so different from what we have now overall. Denninmi Jan 2013 #16

There difference now Lurks Often Jan 2013 #20

That's kind if what I thought the situation was. Denninmi Jan 2013 #22

There have been more than 1000 gun deaths in the US in the month since Newtown. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #24

How about.... Morning Dew Jan 2013 #27

Why? Lurks Often Jan 2013 #29

I've owned a gun - don't own one now. Morning Dew Jan 2013 #30

So, make it a panel...you want to stop the mentally ill from obtaining weapons, this seems a great jmg257 Jan 2013 #37

So much for innocent until proven guilty n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #42

So much for you REALLY caring about solving the problem. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #54

Pathetic, you're willing to take people's rights away without due process. Lurks Often Jan 2013 #56

I'm sorry - did you miss the part about a panel, to provide due process, BEFORE any jmg257 Jan 2013 #58

What's pathetic is Lurks Often Jan 2013 #59

Oh, so now we are on to 'banning SA guns is impossible' and 'dropping crime rates'?!? jmg257 Jan 2013 #60

Not even a good try. Lurks Often Jan 2013 #64

Wow - NOW its the election time meme!?! Have you given up on validating your solutions jmg257 Jan 2013 #70

More emotional rhetoric from you Lurks Often Jan 2013 #71

Emotional? I am stone cold...other then a few laughs at the humour you are providing jmg257 Jan 2013 #74

Wow - GREAT idea! It is so simple, and addresses the problem before-hand. jmg257 Jan 2013 #35

Everybody probably needs a mental health Clarence. Jamastiene Jan 2013 #28

Do we have clearance, Clarence? Roger. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #36

May I remind you and anyone who makes the "mental health" jazzimov Jan 2013 #34

I notice you avoided Lurks Often Jan 2013 #40

I fully support enforcing the current laws jazzimov Jan 2013 #53

Then we need to find a way to reduce violence Lurks Often Jan 2013 #55

Yes, you are absolutely correct jazzimov Jan 2013 #62

Then we disagree with the method Lurks Often Jan 2013 #63

At least we agree with the desired outcome jazzimov Jan 2013 #67

Yes we agree on the outcome Lurks Often Jan 2013 #69

Know what? I'm FAR more worried about these emotionally ill people and the mass harm they cause: Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #38

Then I encourage you to start your OWN thread about it. n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #41

Even I give at least three responses to someone before going anywhere near that sort of reply. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #43

Not at all, your post has NOTHING to do with my original post. n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #45

As a "mentally ill" person (who also hates violence and doesn't care for guns) I find your call to Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #49

My proposal was limited strictly to those Lurks Often Jan 2013 #57

I had to stop at "determined". You KNOW who they are? You can tell? You are qualified? Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #65

If a patient tells a medical professional that they want hurt themselves Lurks Often Jan 2013 #68

You have no concept of the state of the "mental health care system" or that if you start calling out Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #80

We're not going to agree, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #87

+1000000 Jamastiene Jan 2013 #83

I think an FDA review of antidepressants is in order kudzu22 Jan 2013 #44

Agreed, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #46

I like my proposal better. LWolf Jan 2013 #47

+1 leftstreet Jan 2013 #50

I can't believe you said "socialist" quinnox Jan 2013 #52

Yep. LWolf Jan 2013 #81

Are there any studies gollygee Jan 2013 #51

It depends on your viewpoint Lurks Often Jan 2013 #73

It should be limited to specific illnesses which involve agression or threats to others FarCenter Jan 2013 #66

"mental health Clarence?" Did spellcheck suggest that? nt raccoon Jan 2013 #72

I would imagine a mental health Clarence would be Jamastiene Jan 2013 #84

Lanza was blocked from buying a rifle. dkf Jan 2013 #76

I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to say. Lurks Often Jan 2013 #77

The law worked, but it didn't stop anything. dkf Jan 2013 #78

Oh yeah. Those laws really stopped him, didn't they? Jamastiene Jan 2013 #85

Couple proposals tama Jan 2013 #79