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RoseMead

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29. You are incorrect about Sandy Hook
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jan 2013

A different rifle was left in the trunk, but the Bushmaster was the primary killing weapon:

State Police: All 26 Newtown victims shot with assault rifle

Lt. J. Paul Vance, the face of an ongoing Connecticut State Police investigation into worst grade-school shooting in U.S. history, Thursday debunked media and Internet reports that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza killed his victims with handguns and not the Bushmaster XM-15 E2S rifle that is now the focus of a proposed federal assault-weapons ban.

All 26 of Lanza's victims were shot with the .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle, said Vance, who bristled at claims to the contrary during an interview with Hearst Connecticut Newspapers.

>snip<

Vance said he made it abundantly clear during his media briefings since the tragedy that Lanza carried out the shooting with the Bushmaster.

"I personally articulated that probably a dozen times in Newtown," Vance said.


http://www.greenwichtime.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4220548.php


Edited to add: per the story, it was an Izhmash Canta-12 12-gauge shotgun that was left in the trunk.

Your theory makes sense to me. However... OneGrassRoot Jan 2013 #1
Pink Handguns legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #6
Buy a deadly weapon, and call yourself "pro-life"! backscatter712 Jan 2013 #21
It's still macho because it's an AR-15 which is macho? Will the circle be unbroken? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #59
That would explain S.E. Cupp and Sarah Palin loyalsister Jan 2013 #88
Yep. My issue is more with the whole culture of it all... OneGrassRoot Jan 2013 #92
Well said loyalsister Jan 2013 #96
The Dewalt Nail Gun is a Hoax. You've been had. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #99
Actually, I neglected to post the disclaimer about that... OneGrassRoot Jan 2013 #101
So If I buy one of those games I'll feel more manly? el_bryanto Jan 2013 #2
Well, lucky for you the Bushmaster comes with an actual Man Card. Squinch Jan 2013 #79
So how did each one make you feel when you owned them? regjoe Jan 2013 #3
Never owned one. Qualified in the army with one and with the M-14 and 1911. flamin lib Jan 2013 #11
Tired? regjoe Jan 2013 #19
I'm not concerned about my masculinity, don't feel the need, at this point, for male enhancement flamin lib Jan 2013 #22
Then why assume others think differently? regjoe Jan 2013 #26
The OP posts a cogent, well laid out observation (argument) - and you claim they're assuming? Melinda Jan 2013 #35
The OP is an "observation" based on a predetermined opinion regjoe Jan 2013 #57
You claim his analysis "predetermined", lacking in criteria Melinda Jan 2013 #74
The OP begins from the point of "guns = manhood" regjoe Jan 2013 #85
Then could you please explain this... Melinda Jan 2013 #87
One of many gun manufacturers hack89 Jan 2013 #90
It's only one of the images the OP uses, and it *is* by Bushmaster, afterall. Melinda Jan 2013 #102
Yes - that ad is appealing to masculinity to sell guns hack89 Jan 2013 #103
Hello (revised) not so new person... Melinda Jan 2013 #104
Ya' know what? There are enough assholes in the discussion without you aspiring to become one. flamin lib Jan 2013 #110
I think he just got check-mated, no? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #60
Personal observation. nt flamin lib Jan 2013 #44
Fair answer regjoe Jan 2013 #50
understood. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #63
It is merely a rifle hack89 Jan 2013 #4
I personally FirstLight Jan 2013 #8
The civilian ARs aren't machine guns. One trigger pull, one bullet although flamin lib Jan 2013 #12
That's not a machine gun. loose wheel Jan 2013 #15
"the second one is more than enough" Animal Chin Jan 2013 #23
it is a MILITARY rifle, designed to SELL MORE to civilians, once again farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36
We don't need to switch rifles hack89 Jan 2013 #37
of COURSE, you completely ignore the 6 round thing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #42
I can understand your frustration hack89 Jan 2013 #45
my webcam is not on farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46
I support the EOs and universal background checks. hack89 Jan 2013 #47
right- you'd get to keep your 'gun', so why bother pooping on an AWB farminator3000 Jan 2013 #48
We have another OP psycho-analyzing gun owners hack89 Jan 2013 #49
I don't shoot very often but I really like the Swiss 7.5, replacement for the Schmit Ruben 31. flamin lib Jan 2013 #61
i've got a WWII Mossberger .22 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #64
Farminator, this country is ALL about looks. The AR 15 is just a semi-auto with tail fins... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #62
oh jeez farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73
My own personal experience is that it most definitely not very accurate especially when compared Bandit Jan 2013 #75
I would use an AR10 in .270 or .300 WSM if I wanted to hunt deer. hack89 Jan 2013 #82
Tricked out legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #5
Shouldn't we also be talking about the "in-crowd" card? Tell me capitalism doesn't live & breathe on patrice Jan 2013 #7
Important element of this argument, and one not often raised! Squinch Jan 2013 #80
other issues: would love to look into how many gun-fellowship groups there are in churches, a patrice Jan 2013 #81
What does the OP have to do with guardian Jan 2013 #9
Hiding gun threads, not guns. Beleive it or not some peoplr are bored by it all. nt flamin lib Jan 2013 #13
Okay guardian Jan 2013 #17
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #10
Not demonizing anything, just opining about why some people buy some products over others of flamin lib Jan 2013 #18
You are incorrect about Sandy Hook RoseMead Jan 2013 #29
"That the Newtown shooter left his AR-15 in the trunk of his car and used pistols... jmg257 Jan 2013 #30
Thank you. n/t RoseMead Jan 2013 #32
Cheers - you too! nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #33
"This is a way to so increase gun and ammo sales that the number of privately owned firearms jmg257 Jan 2013 #34
Veterans tend to like the model of rifle they trained on Recursion Jan 2013 #14
first let me say I don't own any military style rifles backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #16
The accuracy comes in from fine tuning DonP Jan 2013 #24
oh well their it can make a difference backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #25
That's kind of like running a stock Linux distribution Recursion Jan 2013 #39
sure but ANY gun can be modified backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #83
How quickly can you change calibers on your 30-06? hack89 Jan 2013 #122
Marketing. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #20
A Honda Accord and a Ford Model T are basically the same too kudzu22 Jan 2013 #27
When was the last time anyone saw a yung'un driving around in a Buick or Oldsmobile? SayWut Jan 2013 #28
"Folding Battle Sights" On The AR-15-Style Rifle, With Three 30-Round Magazines Included. Paladin Jan 2013 #31
Folding battle sights are what I learned to shoot on Recursion Jan 2013 #38
Were You In The Military When You Used Such Sights? (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #40
Yes. They fold so you can use them in daytime or nighttime Recursion Jan 2013 #43
In The Military? Yeah, That's What I Figured. Paladin Jan 2013 #53
I'm down with magazine size limits Recursion Jan 2013 #54
he was also in the military when he drove a manual transmission in a jeep, SQUEE Jan 2013 #71
you got it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #41
Free float tubes are for accuracy.. Not heat dissipation, helping prevent flex on the barrel. SQUEE Jan 2013 #68
so what? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #91
"Free floating" a barrel is done on hunting guns for accuracy. X_Digger Jan 2013 #97
You don’t get the fancy free floating quad rail hand guards, farminator3000 Jan 2013 #107
No, you can't grab one off the internet. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #100
maybe in your alternate reality farminator3000 Jan 2013 #105
In an attempt to educate, not that you care. SQUEE Jan 2013 #109
no, i really don't care. at all. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #111
If you don't care, then let me spend my money SQUEE Jan 2013 #112
you don't have enough guns already? you haven't stocked up like everybody else? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #117
Many of my firearms are NFA. And established under a trust SQUEE Jan 2013 #118
i wish google translate did 'gunspeak', but i'll take a 'shot' at this anyhoo farminator3000 Jan 2013 #119
I do not own any automatic weapons. SQUEE Jan 2013 #120
well, THAT'S a relief... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #121
What else would you call a non transferable registration scheme. SQUEE Jan 2013 #126
Folding Battle Sights = BUIS SayWut Jan 2013 #51
I haven't heard anyone claim that high-capacity magazines are cosmetic. Animal Chin Jan 2013 #52
Do you propose the outlawing of Picatinny rails, one-size-fits-all barrel shrouds, etc.? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #67
These are like big exhaust pipes, wings, giant tires, and huge suspension lifts thetonka Jan 2013 #55
Didn't say ban anything. Just opining about why so many want this over that. nt flamin lib Jan 2013 #56
Just go to a gun store and watch yahoos touch, fondle and drool over the dang things. Hoyt Jan 2013 #58
I've been to plenty of gun shows, nick of time Jan 2013 #65
Members of gun culture don't usually recognize such bad behaviour in other cultist. Hoyt Jan 2013 #66
I'm not part of your so called gun culture, nick of time Jan 2013 #72
Spend a lot of time in gunstores? SQUEE Jan 2013 #69
Because it's a better rifle? rbuchanan Jan 2013 #70
Bingo. Much of it is emotional. Like when you see that shiny new car on the dealers lot. geckosfeet Jan 2013 #76
Oh goody! More "Democraticgunsaround." n/t rzemanfl Jan 2013 #77
The 742 is too long in the stock ileus Jan 2013 #78
So you admit the .223 AR15 is not a "hunting caliber" gun. jpak Jan 2013 #93
I admit you are having some reading rbuchanan Jan 2013 #94
You have multiple user names? jpak Jan 2013 #98
Not for big game, no, nick of time Jan 2013 #95
Not for big game? The M-16A1 was designed and sold to the Military to take down flamin lib Jan 2013 #106
Most states outlaw the use of the .223 round for deer hunting nick of time Jan 2013 #108
The vast majority of deer hunting is with the more powerful .30-06 round SpartanDem Jan 2013 #123
So all the posters in this thread who cite hunting as a reason to own an AR, the vast majority flamin lib Jan 2013 #124
The .223 is fine for smaller game SpartanDem Jan 2013 #125
So what you're saying is that since the late '60s the DOD has been outfitting soldiers to flamin lib Jan 2013 #127
Um...no. What exactly are you trying to say? SpartanDem Jan 2013 #128
I'm trying to say that the .223 round fired by the AR type guns is a deadly round flamin lib Jan 2013 #129
You're right it is deadly SpartanDem Jan 2013 #130
Turkey, coyotes, crows. ileus Jan 2013 #113
Not for turkey in Maine and other states jpak Jan 2013 #115
I don't live in Maine. ileus Jan 2013 #116
I don't need to be an AR-15 totin', mancard ownin' douche in order to tell if I'm a man ... chemenger Jan 2013 #84
For me keeping and bearing arms is more about self-reliance more than machismo. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #86
Here's what I've observed: ecstatic Jan 2013 #89
Agree marions ghost Jan 2013 #114
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