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hedgehog

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51. I have several questions about this -

Reply to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:16 PM

Jan 2013

1. Is there any reason to suspect that pushing kids ahead of traditional expectations makes any difference as they grow older? For example, say one kid learns to read at 4, and the other at 6. What does the first kid know that the second does not when they are both 25?

2. Does this push into a rigid curriculum suppress creativity? I'm thinking of the current difference between American technology and that coming out of Korea and Japan.

3. Wouldn't it make more sense to involve kids in learning, to make them want to know more? I'd rather the emphasis be put on projects such as raising tadpoles into frogs, then returning them to the wild.

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Playtime’s over, kindergartners - Standards stressing kids out [View all] proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 OP

I wouldn't let me kids go to that type of school NoOneMan Jan 2013 #1

It's what all public schools are like now. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #2

Thats insane NoOneMan Jan 2013 #5

"that type of school" = d_r Jan 2013 #3

This isn't day 1. jeff47 Jan 2013 #30

The kids in the story are crying from stress NoOneMan Jan 2013 #35

Again, not a fan of common cirriculum jeff47 Jan 2013 #36

The article clearly says last week. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #43

That's nice. Did you miss how it didn't say when they had to have any proficiency? jeff47 Jan 2013 #44

Teaching kids to take tests. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #4

How are they supposed to write? Did the kids learn reading and spelling.. nenagh Jan 2013 #6

The Gates Foundation is the driving force behind Common Core. Who makes it up? Their paid HiPointDem Jan 2013 #17

I believe they expect that learning to take place in the womb. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #18

Its not, really. I teach kindergarten. Read my post below. RayOfHope Jan 2013 #24

Thank you...your children are very lucky to have you as their teacher... nenagh Jan 2013 #61

This is paving the way to a return to child labor duffyduff Jan 2013 #7

Could You Elaborate a Bit on "Neoliberal Reformers" dballance Jan 2013 #11

Common core is Gates Foundation, period. duffyduff Jan 2013 #12

Oh, just a different set of people with no education experience than legislators /eom dballance Jan 2013 #13

Exactly. Same gang, different "cause." n/t duffyduff Jan 2013 #21

Bingo! We have a winner, ladies and gentlemen!!! proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #19

Maybe the wrong people are developing this core? dkf Jan 2013 #8

Wow this isn't even coming from the Feds...it's from the States via the Governors! dkf Jan 2013 #9

"Common core" is Gates Foundation b.s. n/t duffyduff Jan 2013 #10

Ah...you are right. dkf Jan 2013 #16

Except teachers didn't really provide input. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #22

I'm beginning to see that. Looks like everyone has been bought off lured by $. dkf Jan 2013 #29

It's always about the money. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #41

These must be the same people who thought if would be a good idea liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #14

I don't blame you. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #26

My kid was participating in a literature group in Kimdergarten. MissB Jan 2013 #15

That is just plain disgusting and wrong. I don't care whose idea it is. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #20

Before everyone freaks out over this, let me tell you what MY k class looks like, and we do these RayOfHope Jan 2013 #23

So every kid in your class knows all of their ABCs and their sounds? And can count to 100? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #25

Why would you know whats going on with my kindergartners more than me? RayOfHope Jan 2013 #27

you sound like my daughter's kindergarten teacher Maine-ah Jan 2013 #55

ipads for kindergarteners liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #58

it's a state program Maine-ah Jan 2013 #73

+1 Johonny Jan 2013 #62

Because I've been teaching for a long time. I know kids. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #66

so what do you do with the students who are not at the same level? liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #28

Differentiated instruction. Simply put, RayOfHope Jan 2013 #31

Are you in a fairly affluent area where kids come in ready to learn? dkf Jan 2013 #32

Oh lord no. I am semi rural in a school thats 50% free and reduced lunch RayOfHope Jan 2013 #33

well if it works for your class then I'm glad liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #34

I'm not ignoring them the rest of the time! RayOfHope Jan 2013 #37

I've seen threads on this board before where dozens and dozens liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #38

That may work in your class, but that's not true for all areas. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #45

I agree RayOfHope Jan 2013 #46

Not dumb things down, differentiate. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #47

+1 proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #48

and why are special education students even in these new very strict standards? liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #50

It's not just students with IEPs. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #59

I'm thinking about opting out of the standardized test this next time liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #63

If I could suggest as a parent of a child who is behind liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #68

I do, but it's always good to be reminded. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #70

+1000... YvonneCa Jan 2013 #56

Yup. And by the time Jan. rolls around, you either want to hold back those who MichiganVote Jan 2013 #54

Anywhere from zero to two KamaAina Jan 2013 #65

If conservatives had their way, childhood as we know it wouldn't exist. Ken Burch Jan 2013 #39

unfortunately it's not just the conservatives liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #40

I know...but then, fascism and neo-feudalism Ken Burch Jan 2013 #42

Cry babies Shankapotomus Jan 2013 #49

I have several questions about this - hedgehog Jan 2013 #51

we're going to create a generation that hates learning liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #52

I'd love to see someone who has studied both the common core curriculum and the teachings of hedgehog Jan 2013 #53

A few answers knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #60

In an age when so much play is virtual, I think hands-on experience hedgehog Jan 2013 #64

Speeches and groupwork PasadenaTrudy Jan 2013 #67

Small class sizes and child centered focus. Bingo! liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #69

I differentiate for my introverts. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #71

Great thread and discussion... YvonneCa Jan 2013 #57

NY Post... Javaman Jan 2013 #72