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farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
73. i don't really see an 'agenda' in the OP
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jan 2013

i have a couple of suggestions-

the trick is being BOTH more open AND closed-minded-

closed to prejudice, basically, and open to the idea that how someone looks doesn't define who they are.

it isn't just the south- i'm from the 'north' and there are bigoted people here,too. i've grown dreadlocks before (i'm white), and i've heard and seen the same things described in the OP. some of the worst bigots i know personally are transplanted canadians.

here is a pic of obama with his mother for starters: (you might notice she is not black)
http://www.salon.com/2011/04/21/barack_obama_ann_dunham_biography/

i think the important thing is to remember that black people and LGBT people are just that, PEOPLE, and if you can see them for who they are and what they go through on a daily basis, you can appreciate them more as human beings.

instead of automatically thinking thief or freak.

i don't mean this to sound judgmental - democrats are not immune to the below- (bay of pigs, vietnam...)

Groupthink
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences. Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking

***

What is Groupthink?

Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of “mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment” (p. 9). Groups affected by groupthink ignore alternatives and tend to take irrational actions that dehumanize other groups. A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink when its members are similar in background, when the group is insulated from outside opinions, and when there are no clear rules for decision making
http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm

Reactionary conservatives are usually fucking hypocrites. What else is really new? AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #1
What is an "RBKA fake Democrat" ??? demwing Jan 2013 #2
eg Electric Monk Jan 2013 #6
your list MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #16
So jody finally bit the dust.. been here since 2001 with Cha Jan 2013 #22
Republican trolls coming to DU with their gun fetish and pretending to be Dems Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #25
Can't you get out of there? It sounds terrible! nt Walk away Jan 2013 #3
It sounds like Cha Jan 2013 #23
It sounds like obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #31
How could you not? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #43
Nope, it's like a parody of what I've been around obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #47
Pointing out hypocrisy is a fair point. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #53
Wow... chervilant Jan 2013 #65
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #4
sweet potato pie hfojvt Jan 2013 #5
Almost everybody tells me their politics and predjudices and 99% of the time I keep quiet MightyMopar Jan 2013 #8
Everyone is not that way BainsBane Jan 2013 #13
Sometimes when your a goldfish in a ocean of sharks sometimes it's hard to say anything. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #28
It's easier to be a liberal in the south if you are already a southerner. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #35
Well I moved in the south about 20 yrs ago and I think am still an outsider. My southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #52
May I ask where you live, Southernyankeebellle? BainsBane Jan 2013 #84
lololololol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #32
. REP Jan 2013 #7
That made me lol OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #9
After I got my Chrysler T&C.. my neighbor exchanged their Honda for one. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #12
I hope y'all have better luck than I've had OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #14
I had a 2000 300M with 265K miles on it... just tires, brakes and regular servicing. TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #15
lol, yeah I watched some of that OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #19
I'd get a few Hemi Superbirds, now selling at over $1.2 Million each. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #21
..... obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #29
I think there is a thread about being a feminist, too. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #74
If you are, I guess I am too.... PDJane Jan 2013 #10
I ran into a southerner who had guns to shoot 'cans'... Africans, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #11
Arent' they just too funny? Iggo Jan 2013 #18
I heard some pretty awful crap when I lived in Georgia. Back then it was dimbear Jan 2013 #17
I thought this book sounded interesting Douglas Carpenter Jan 2013 #20
Hmm Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #34
It was actually very good JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #24
"I don't want to listen to that kind of shit!" Warpy Jan 2013 #26
Pretty much same experience. I'm tired of listening to these right wing, callous bigots. Of course, Hoyt Jan 2013 #27
lol The OP and many of the replies are just ridiculous obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #30
Just because YOU think you haven't heard those things Zoeisright Jan 2013 #46
..... obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #50
See the OP cordelia Jan 2013 #54
Review your own post. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #71
In all honesty your post makes no sense to me. n/t vaberella Jan 2013 #33
I'm not quite sure why you had to tavernier Jan 2013 #36
Yup obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #38
Post where people make first hand observations of life in the South are removed Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #37
lololololol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #40
Yeah, you've got it all figured out after 3 days. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #62
LMAO! Sissyk Jan 2013 #68
Reason number 1 I will NEVER live in the South Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #39
Some of you really need to quit watching certain movies and TV shows obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #41
First hand accounts are now baseless? Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #48
uh huh obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #49
So enjoy denial Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #51
I am White and lived in the south from the 60's to the 90's and I agree with you Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #45
Thank you for leaving. cordelia Jan 2013 #56
I guess your enjoy daily racism and ignorance, have fun existing there Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #58
I think this was uncalled for. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #60
Not really the poster denies first hand accounts of southen racism that happen today Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #61
Post #57 would appear to contradict that statement. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #63
I am not denying that racism does not exist in the South. cordelia Jan 2013 #67
60's to the 90's Sissyk Jan 2013 #69
Well, the OP got what he wanted with this thread obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #42
Yet that is how many refer to MLK Day in the south Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #59
It's a DISGUSTING term for a THREAD TITLE HERE. Must be that pesky DECENCY WinkyDink Jan 2013 #75
Ahh yes sweep it under the rug in the name of decency to save your delicate sensibilities Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #77
yup obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #83
Sounds like you should be reporting lots of those people Zoeisright Jan 2013 #44
I hear shit like that and I'm in the north. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #55
I heard shit like that when I lived in the cordelia Jan 2013 #57
most of Uhhhhmerica is a racist backwater datasuspect Jan 2013 #70
So what is the point of this OP, ultimately? klook Jan 2013 #64
i don't really see an 'agenda' in the OP farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73
The thread title language IS the agenda, get it? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #76
bingo obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #80
I'm from NYC lived here my entire life Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #66
NYC too. I've only heard people be openly racist in two places all these years here bettyellen Jan 2013 #78
Sadly that racist clique is half my family Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #79
sorry to hear that, AT. Agree that giulliani years were awful for most of us. bettyellen Jan 2013 #82
Well Your Starter does sound like Penguins Mating! One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #72
More false equivalency, yes all regions have bigotry but in the rural south it's mainstream MightyMopar Jan 2013 #85
What say DU One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #86
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