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The story of a gun: Serial number MPX753 [View all] superpatriotman Jan 2013 OP
Devil"s Right Hand MightyMopar Jan 2013 #1
The story of a gun: serial number abc-1234 Bay Boy Jan 2013 #2
The deputy who used the gun in the story never misused his gun either. Squinch Jan 2013 #5
exactly. probably no law against leaving in your car farminator3000 Jan 2013 #9
Oy. I had not heard that number. That's chilling. Squinch Jan 2013 #10
its been going down if that helps... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #13
Only police and military need guns sarisataka Jan 2013 #3
Interesting that this gun melm00se Jan 2013 #4
Obviously a member of our crack law enforcement community would stultusporcos Jan 2013 #6
What's the point? Crepuscular Jan 2013 #7
see #11 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #12
It's just a good, interesting illustration of the "chain of ownership" Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #43
Yeah, what's the whole "point thing" about learning new information?? nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #66
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out the objective/reason for the article. ?? nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #8
to show how 75% of 'shootings' actually happen in reality? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #11
Too few and not obeyed... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #14
so you blame the cops for criminal gun activity and not the NRA. interesting farminator3000 Jan 2013 #15
this one in particular you might want to check out farminator3000 Jan 2013 #16
How many were traced back to the original seller? ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #17
how would i know that? i'm not an NYPD detective. plus it was 3 days ago, so even though i'm farminator3000 Jan 2013 #19
FFLs are required to keep the paperwork forever. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #21
great, but they only sell 60% of guns, the others are all no BG check farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23
Uh...no. Your assertion about dealers only keeping records 24 hours is 100% false. beevul Jan 2013 #22
see #23 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #24
Umm.. dealer's records != background check records. X_Digger Jan 2013 #25
and the batf doing stuff by hand not = to sanity farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26
None of which mitigates the simple fact that you were wrong when you said... beevul Jan 2013 #27
thank you for not posting a wall of hoo-hah, makes it quicker to refute! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29
You figured out how to use paragraphs. Good job! beevul Jan 2013 #44
serious question here- farminator3000 Jan 2013 #31
check post #29 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #30
Actually, you did misspeak.. X_Digger Jan 2013 #32
no, i was typing, and you are obsessing about a form that is meaningless farminator3000 Jan 2013 #33
Meaningless? Then why keep them? They (form 4473s) are the main means of tracing guns used in crime. X_Digger Jan 2013 #35
why keep them in a cardboard box if they are so important? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36
Nice dodge. Still doesn't change the fact that you were wrong about.. X_Digger Jan 2013 #37
can you please discuss something of revelance? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #38
Dealers *never* had the background check records. X_Digger Jan 2013 #39
well, that certainly is a problem, now ISN'T IT? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #40
"Mails it in"?!? You really don't know the process, do you? X_Digger Jan 2013 #41
it sure doesn't make any sense, whatever you are typing, there. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #45
The BATFE checks the 4473-- the exact same information that he read to the NICS agent for BG check. X_Digger Jan 2013 #47
reality, post #46 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #49
These guns were traced to point of sale, no? Then your contention in post #19 is incorrect. X_Digger Jan 2013 #52
maybe they bought gas while on their jolly gun buying jaunt. or used their phones. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53
The fact that the cops could even say where they came from proves your statement wrong. X_Digger Jan 2013 #55
you have no idea what the cops know or how they know it and it proves nothing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #56
I do know what cops know, my family is a cop shop. X_Digger Jan 2013 #58
working this case, are they? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #60
To review.. BG checks != 4473's which aren't destroyed. X_Digger Jan 2013 #62
i couldn't care less about the details farminator3000 Jan 2013 #65
All states have background checks from federally licensed dealers. X_Digger Jan 2013 #67
you can't be serious. at all. dealers aren't involved at all for the 12th time farminator3000 Jan 2013 #68
If you mean private sales, then *say* private sales. X_Digger Jan 2013 #69
oh for the everloving crap of the ages. i'm saying THERE ARE TOO MANY GODDAMN GUNS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #70
i mean really. think about reality, please. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46
Dealers are required to check ID.. for the background check. X_Digger Jan 2013 #48
THEY ARE CRIMINALS THEY DIDN'T GET THEM FROM A DEALER OR FILL OUT A FORM farminator3000 Jan 2013 #50
Which has nothing to do with Tiahardt. Keep dodging. n/t X_Digger Jan 2013 #51
no, tiahrt has EVERYTHING to do with this- because it is so totally awful farminator3000 Jan 2013 #54
That's not even internally consistent. X_Digger Jan 2013 #57
maybe because 'internally consistent' has no meaning? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #59
Lol, mediamatters flubbed up on the MI law.. X_Digger Jan 2013 #61
not if the a-holes at the NRA have their way, actually would be the truth farminator3000 Jan 2013 #64
Spoiler Alert: Stolen gun gets used in subsequent crime. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #18
update: there are about 500,000 stolen a year farminator3000 Jan 2013 #20
Not unusual Franker65 Jan 2013 #28
Gun stolen after being misplaced by court officer Two people in court Monday to face charges-today farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34
dont know why he left it in his car my glock is always on my hip unless im in the house loli phabay Jan 2013 #42
Story of another gun, that has no serial number, MadHound Jan 2013 #63
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