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Do you agree with Bill Maher's mockery of American masculinity? I think US gun culture is degenerate [View all]

Maher criticizes men whose moods depend ‘on how well a 20-year-old kid tackles a 19-year-old kid’

Maher ended his show on Friday night with his theories on defense spending and his belief in a problem in American men’s masculinity.

“New rule: America needs to show it’s the home of the brave by acting like it,” he began.

Maher, who noted that the U.S. defense budget is larger than the defense budgets of the next 13 countries combined, asked, “Let me ask you: if a guy on your block was so frightened of mostly nonexistent prowlers that he spent all his resources on alarm systems and guns and cameras, so much so that he didn’t even have enough money left to maintain his home or send his kids to college, would you call him brave?”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/26/maher-criticizes-men-whose-moods-depend-on-how-well-a-20-year-old-kid-tackles-a-19-year-old-kid/

I think American men are all out of whack about how to express themselves. America's sick degenerate culture is one symptom of this phenomenon.

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Do you agree with Bill Maher's mockery of American masculinity? I think US gun culture is degenerate [View all]	MightyMopar	Jan 2013	OP
It isn't only men, but whatever. I liked this quote:	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#1
I think one of the degenerate forms of expression is muscle cars	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#2
I personally think that needlessly long words are the worst offense	mn9driver	Jan 2013	#5
Personally - Needlessly - Everything...	lame54	Jan 2013	#19
Ha!	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	Jan 2013	#72
Muscle car owners love guns too. What does that tell you?	Hoyt	Jan 2013	#7
I suggest you ask the OP, that is his thing, not mine	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#25
No they don't. Mine is a mustang junky.	glowing	Jan 2013	#62
72 Pontiac formula 400 with side pipe mufflers	madrchsod	Jan 2013	#81
It really burns our phony "professor" that his deadly little pro-NRA hobby gets questioning	apocalypsehow	Jan 2013	#87
Hey, I own one of those fully restored muscle cars.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#8
Got your goat? BTW, a Mopar can get very good gas mileage like this new 40 mpg Dart	MightyMopar	Jan 2013	#11
Your fan boi mentality is clear	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#24
Looks like Mopar has gained now that it is a FIAT	Hangingon	Jan 2013	#74
actually chrysler`s us profits bailed out fiat`s european operations	madrchsod	Jan 2013	#82
i really would like to own a dart	madrchsod	Jan 2013	#78
Stupid men with their guns, penises, football, and cars...	NightWatcher	Jan 2013	#14
I'm a male that doesn't find entertainment in sports...	EastKYLiberal	Jan 2013	#18
Football is like a metaphor for war. Here's George Carlin's take	MightyMopar	Jan 2013	#21
What he said.....	Th1onein	Jan 2013	#85
I do think a lot of fans think football is like war	NewJeffCT	Jan 2013	#117
Thank god!	smirkymonkey	Jan 2013	#27
But the theory that men in America (generally) lack bravery	mindwalker_i	Jan 2013	#70
Some people just admire and appreciate excellent engineering.	Flatulo	Jan 2013	#35
Last I check, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc are not the muscle cars fan bois drool over	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#37
Oh, there's a lot of fan boi-ism over these brands. You'd be surprised how heated the discussions	Flatulo	Jan 2013	#38
But that is not the same as muscle car fanbois...	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#42
Yeah, I think I know the type. When I was a kid, the car to have was the Plymouth Roadrunner.	Flatulo	Jan 2013	#50
I've noticed a lot of RBKAer types were bullied and retreat into gun extremism	MightyMopar	Jan 2013	#94
I grew up in a semi-rural area outside Boston. Every family had guns, and most kids had a .22	Flatulo	Jan 2013	#98
Car enthusiasts never theathened their opponents children like the RBKA crowd does	MightyMopar	Jan 2013	#99
Most muscle car types I have known were good ole boys with historical ties to guys who wore white	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#103
What if your muscle car gets 89 mpg?	MightyMopar	Jan 2013	#106
I have a childhood friend who can't stop talking about the Prius's he and his wife drive, and how	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2013	#43
At least they are talking about something positive	Aerows	Jan 2013	#112
My mother refers to (classic) muscle car owners	Dawson Leery	Jan 2013	#65
You're STILL not really fooling anybody, know it, "professor"?*	apocalypsehow	Jan 2013	#86
I smell fungus	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#90
Your concern is noted.	lumberjack_jeff	Jan 2013	#91
As the owner of several guns AND several muscle cars, I can't decide which of you is the bigger tool	Throd	Jan 2013	#93
Two posts in, and you manage to turn the debate from guns to cars.	bluedigger	Jan 2013	#110
Cars have a purpose	Aerows	Jan 2013	#113
I imagine the one of the quickest things we often do when our sacred cow is attacked	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#118
The US military budget has little to do with masculinity.	mn9driver	Jan 2013	#3
And the ability and need of our elected officials	SQUEE	Jan 2013	#4
In Ventura County, CA, thousands work at the local base. That and local government	LibDemAlways	Jan 2013	#15
There are actually a couple there, Point Mugu and Port Hueneme	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#28
Yep, the joint bases are the largest single employer in the county.	LibDemAlways	Jan 2013	#52
Plenty of men exhibit their masculinity vicariously via chickenhawkism	Odin2005	Jan 2013	#44
A woman I used to know	Confusious	Jan 2013	#102
The military and the contractors who feed it are	LibDemAlways	Jan 2013	#6
So continuation of a war machine, with our tax dollars, and the blood of our children	SQUEE	Jan 2013	#9
I don't like it any more than you. It's like a cancer that has	LibDemAlways	Jan 2013	#17
However, it can be reduced slowly over time by attrition	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2013	#30
Precisely n/t	Still Sensible	Jan 2013	#63
It's our culture, not our gender.	bemildred	Jan 2013	#10
good points - I agree nt	Tumbulu	Jan 2013	#54
Hey.	bemildred	Jan 2013	#59
Thanks! Hey back!	Tumbulu	Jan 2013	#73
Exactly. Thank you. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jan 2013	#92
It's not just men. Our whole culture is a 13-yr-old boy.	DirkGently	Jan 2013	#12
+10.000	smirkymonkey	Jan 2013	#29
Maher always thinks outside the box. His hypothesis, that men have been neutered	Laura PourMeADrink	Jan 2013	#13
Yes, well, his misogyny is well documented, so I'm not surprised at the "neutering" BS	whathehell	Jan 2013	#33
I think you are right about his personal issues with women for sure.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jan 2013	#71
I remember tons of wannabe Rambos popping up in the '80s	pinboy3niner	Jan 2013	#16
I noticed it after 9/11 too. All of the camouflage gear men were wearing, like they had just finished	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#64
I think we live in a bully culture. In basketball it isnt "have a competitive game" but	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#20
I generally agree	FlaGranny	Jan 2013	#36
I agree that it was tougher in the past but today it's all about domination.	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#45
How does a referee in ANY sport "reward" a participant, especially in basketball?	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2013	#47
If you were to stand within two feet of Michael Jordon going to the basket	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#80
LOL, "I haven't watched a game since 1992, but I'm gonna tell you EVERYTHING I don't like about it"!	Moses2SandyKoufax	Jan 2013	#89
Can you spell intellectual dishonesty?	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#95
I didn't refute what you said	Moses2SandyKoufax	Jan 2013	#97
Good job. Play the race card and shut off the discussion. You totally missed my original point	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#104
I think I'd have to agree.	Marr	Jan 2013	#122
Yes and they called it the "Dream Team" and we bullied the other teams. In fact	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#123
I liked this clip and was amused at some comments I saw on Facebook.	logosoco	Jan 2013	#22
he's right	samsingh	Jan 2013	#23
It's all about $$$$$ and the MIC. Weapons, war and deaths are big money and the MIC loves lots of	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#26
right. another conspiracy. it cant be that most american males out there are really large babies	pasto76	Jan 2013	#48
Quite true, particularly your last sentence!	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#57
That was so right on. I find that there are very few real men out there.	smirkymonkey	Jan 2013	#31
C'mon... give us something to aspire to.	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2013	#55
Someone who is just completely himself without all the macho posturing and	smirkymonkey	Jan 2013	#76
I think that "gun culture" has the same status as "gangster culture" or "drug culture".	Igel	Jan 2013	#32
Don't these same republicans tell us this is how Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union?	sadbear	Jan 2013	#34
It is exactly what we are doing now...	Kalidurga	Jan 2013	#60
BillMaherFanHere	jbone45	Jan 2013	#39
Maher is a wanker.	JoeyT	Jan 2013	#40
These "men" have the emotional maturity of a 12yo boy.	Odin2005	Jan 2013	#41
right on. basic respect has been largely lost	pasto76	Jan 2013	#51
I think it starts with folks born in the 30s.	Odin2005	Jan 2013	#68
Creepy gun fetishists abound.	Arugula Latte	Jan 2013	#46
not just US! Everywhere...	Duppers	Jan 2013	#49
Americans are quite primitive in this respect.	Dawson Leery	Jan 2013	#53
I do	riverbendviewgal	Jan 2013	#56
In all fariness	DonCoquixote	Jan 2013	#88
In all fairness	riverbendviewgal	Jan 2013	#100
I normally like you	DonCoquixote	Jan 2013	#107
i know we can get very enthusiastic with our sports	riverbendviewgal	Jan 2013	#109
Yes. And I don't need a gun to "prove" that I am a man.	amb123	Jan 2013	#58
Part of it is the post-WWII "We're king of the World" mentality....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#61
I agree, but I think more of it is the aftermath of that. We USED to be king of the world. Now	Squinch	Jan 2013	#77
The government got women on board during the Cold War through the myth of breeding camps.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#83
What is that?	Squinch	Jan 2013	#108
There was a myth the government put out that when the Soviets rolled in,...	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#114
Interesting, but I don't think that's an equivalent. It would have to be something women are	Squinch	Jan 2013	#119
These guys are obsessed with Americas virility....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#120
More bullshit sexist drivel from Maher.	MadrasT	Jan 2013	#66
I loved Maher's closing segment!	bvar22	Jan 2013	#67
Yes. n/t	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#69
what's wrong with serious locks and alarms? probably cheaper than guns	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#75
I could not agree more.	forestpath	Jan 2013	#79
What "sick degenerate culture"?	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2013	#84
This is when you point out to those who think that media has no	Skidmore	Jan 2013	#96
This country has been conditioned from cradle to grave	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Jan 2013	#101
Maher is right except about the WAR budget. That's just THIEVES stealing money from the Treasury. nt	valerief	Jan 2013	#105
He's right on	Aerows	Jan 2013	#111
There are plenty of other cultures that love their sports	NewJeffCT	Jan 2013	#115
He was spot on	Taverner	Jan 2013	#116
Yup. He's the closest thing we have to a pop-culture genius.	Smarmie Doofus	Jan 2013	#121