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41. There are many who agree.

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:13 AM

Jan 2013

"Every government that intends war is as much our enemy as ever the Germans were...the safeguard of peace is not a vast army,but an unreliable public, a public that will fill the streets and empty the factories at the word War, that will learn and accept the lesson of resistance. The only way to stop atrocities is to refuse to participate in them."

Alex Comfort, Peace and Disobedience, in Peace News (1946), pp. 6-7

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I killed people in Afghanistan. Was I right or wrong? [View all] rug Jan 2013 OP

I remember having this realization when I first watched "Full Metal Jacket" MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #1

And it goes on and on. rug Jan 2013 #2

Because the people with greed for money, land and power keep popping enough Jan 2013 #3

It's not that difficult at all. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #6

"The key is knowing when to quit" - The U.S. misplaced that key starting in, oh, about coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #8

Considering that your criteria for a "just war" are missing from most US conflicts whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #25

SPOILER ALERT (if it's still needed): "FMJ" has many watchable moments. For me, the most telling coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #4

I thought it was a fantastic movie MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #5

Another little jewel in the rough: Brian de Palma's "Casualties of War." For about 15 seconds, you coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #7

Portions of "Hamburger Hill" and "We were Soldiers Once, and Young" can provide you ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #9

You served in Vietnam? Thank you. MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #14

Long, long ago. Part of what I love about DU is the number of vets who post here. 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #20

What did you think of The 13th Valley? n/t malthaussen Jan 2013 #43

I liked it a lot. I met John Del Vecchio years after the war. 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #45

Very cool, bro! pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #46

"We were Soldiers" was incredible. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #10

Are you talking about that propaganda movie tabasco Jan 2013 #13

I did not feel like it glorifed war Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #15

"We Were Soldiers" is an incredibly well-done anti-war film.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #18

I agree completely Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #21

You have got to be kidding me. tabasco Jan 2013 #22

That's your opinion. Additionally, there is only so much you can put into a movie.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #24

Then why did they leave out the second day of the battle, when a battalion was ambushed tabasco Jan 2013 #23

The battle at LZ X-Ray lasted 3 days; LZ Albany was on the 4th day pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #27

Good post. pangaia Jan 2013 #33

Thanks. The book covered all aspects of the battle in detail. pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #38

I had numerous criticisms of the movie pangaia Jan 2013 #29

I hate the fact that they completely made the end up. Dash87 Jan 2013 #42

I wonder if he really wants or is ready for the answer. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #11

What Kudo says is true tabasco Jan 2013 #12

That's why the first thing they do is suppress the recruits' humanity... Wounded Bear Jan 2013 #16

+1000 n/t Catherina Jan 2013 #17

+ 1000 more and.. pangaia Jan 2013 #30

My tag line is something I heard many years ago... Wounded Bear Jan 2013 #35

Oh I agree, it is deeply profound.. pangaia Jan 2013 #51

+10000 woo me with science Jan 2013 #49

All veterans of ground combat of all wars wrestle with what they've seen and done.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Ptah Jan 2013 #26

I fixed and maintained B-52s. Was I right or wrong? Ptah Jan 2013 #28

The fact that you can ask the question is what counts. pangaia Jan 2013 #32

The one thing I always ask some one getting ready to join the military is stultusporcos Jan 2013 #31

There will come a day when humanity realizes randr Jan 2013 #34

Much more than wrong. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #36

Proceeding from a false premise cbrer Jan 2013 #37

All of us with any kind of upbringing faced this question.. Bigmack Jan 2013 #39

Watching TeeVee, they always put it as defending us here at home... Th1onein Jan 2013 #40

There are many who agree. rug Jan 2013 #41

our country was wrong to put you in that position klyon Jan 2013 #44

As long as he followed legal orders, he only did what we asked him to do. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #47

Lots of different kinds of guilt.... Bigmack Jan 2013 #48

Killing marions ghost Jan 2013 #50