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CdnExtraNational

(105 posts)
54. Honestly I don't understand why you already accept undemocratic rule
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jan 2013

The house is already, in my humble opinion, been stolen by gerrymandering and thus not representative of the people.

I for one can't understand why the media isn't already all over this, and the people aren't already in the streets.
If the house of representatives doesn't actually represent the majority, and particularly through documented tampering of the election system...

Democracy is already lost in the United States of America!

It's natural for those who benefit from this to continue to use their unnatural advantages to continue gaming the system, and so the electoral college will be the next to fall, and then the supreme court, and then the senate.

I signed up just to post my grave concerns because I can't believe this is happening unchecked. In Egypt people take to the streets daily to try to sway their government towards democracy.
I'm a Canadian Extra National and I do a lot of IT work through my company in the United States and across the world in banana republics. I have seen vote buying in mass in the first person, and I've seen how corruption and politics work together to extend the advantage that the rich have over the poor. I have also had the privilege of handing a hard-working young man from simple beginnings pay-cheques that gradually change the life of him and his family; not because of the money, but because of the confidence he built in getting it.

It just starts in apathy and the next thing you know there's no jobs for anybody except the families of the well connected.

He just noticed this a week ago? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #1
He NOTED it a week ago. On the website' noted' links to another article. nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #3
LOL oops limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #5
I do the same thing all the time. octoberlib Jan 2013 #7
What tics me off is we've known this ever since upaloopa Jan 2013 #2
A bunch of journalists I follow on Twitter were talking about this today octoberlib Jan 2013 #4
I think Mother Jones had an article today pointing out that... mattclearing Jan 2013 #42
He's been watching Rachel? That said.. the more outlets annabanana Jan 2013 #6
The Republicans know that they can't win the arguments on issues anymore Larkspur Jan 2013 #8
IMO the "electoral college" is an anachronism and should be abolished in favor of the popular vote. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #41
If they ever get the majority back Lordquinton Jan 2013 #46
and this is how they rationalize it Enrique Jan 2013 #9
The confederacy lives. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #11
pretty much where they are at lunasun Jan 2013 #52
The voters of the states are to blame. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #10
As a Virginia resident, I agree. Neurotica Jan 2013 #12
Good for you! I just got a local Democratic org. flyer here in TX. I might actually get involved.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #13
It's hard to find the time but it's so worth it if you have a chance. Neurotica Jan 2013 #27
It is very exciting to think a change can be made. Esp since I live in TX and there's a chance Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #37
I live in NJ but if you form a Pac I would be happy to donate. Walk away Jan 2013 #14
We might. I'll let you know. Neurotica Jan 2013 #25
Good! nt Walk away Jan 2013 #33
+1 octoberlib Jan 2013 #20
Good for you and good luck. Grass roots efforts can change everything. mountain grammy Jan 2013 #55
+1. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #59
I sadly agree with every word you wrote. MH1 Jan 2013 #15
Well, it would be a different matter if ALL the states did it. But when ONLY swing states do it... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #19
No, because of gerrymandering n2doc Jan 2013 #22
Perhaps if Dims would govern like Dems CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #44
The key term here is "Community Organizing" Saul Alinsky and Mother Jones knew how that worked. libdem4life Jan 2013 #16
WTF?!?! Ah HELL NO benld74 Jan 2013 #17
Real life evil villians libodem Jan 2013 #18
This sounds like something a third world dictator would do Politicub Jan 2013 #21
Yes, it does sound 3rd world dictatorial. Giving the unethical a "legal" veneer... Beartracks Jan 2013 #26
It's a plan to vandalize the Republic itself JHB Jan 2013 #28
National Popular Vote november3rd Jan 2013 #67
huge Faryn Balyncd Jan 2013 #23
Hell Yeah! This has been out there...Glad Josh Woke Up to It! Good News..K&$ KoKo Jan 2013 #24
This confuses me. I have no understanding of how gerrymandering works. Know a good primer? n/t PerpetuallyDazed Jan 2013 #29
Here are some sources octoberlib Jan 2013 #38
Thanks! PerpetuallyDazed Jan 2013 #53
they've already done this with the House Betty Jan 2013 #30
There is a little silver lining here (admittedly a stretch) BlueStreak Jan 2013 #31
This would be a good electoral reform dreamnightwind Jan 2013 #32
K & R AzDar Jan 2013 #34
Time to take to the streets! BootinUp Jan 2013 #35
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2013 #36
This is so important that i think President Obama needs to talk about it at Hawaii Hiker Jan 2013 #39
It is past time to do away with the Electoral College system. olegramps Jan 2013 #40
Someone needs to take these people to court lunatica Jan 2013 #43
Unfortunately I think the Doge of the Supreme Court (Scalia) and his friends... 47of74 Jan 2013 #56
Clarence Thomas with his Teabag Party wife is more worrisome lunatica Jan 2013 #61
Gerrymandering can rig the Electoral College, thus a legal basis to overturn gerrymandered states! Coyotl Jan 2013 #64
This could be a solution octoberlib Jan 2013 #45
Get rid of the electoral college. One person one vote. Count as in India. More people no problems judesedit Jan 2013 #47
I think secondvariety Jan 2013 #48
this is a true threat to democrasy samsingh Jan 2013 #49
If you could get all the states to do this, I'd be okay with it. Bucky Jan 2013 #50
there must be a plan to move huge numbers of progressives to these gerrymandered districts riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #51
Honestly I don't understand why you already accept undemocratic rule CdnExtraNational Jan 2013 #54
+1 HiPointDem Jan 2013 #60
Apathy, yes. Those of us who took to the streets as Occupy exhorted our fellow citizens Zorra Jan 2013 #68
Another small step. hay rick Jan 2013 #57
Bipartisanship You Can Believe In blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #58
Stop those mofos butt cold... peace frog Jan 2013 #62
This is racism in its purest sense, disenfranchising black communities by gerrymandering them. Coyotl Jan 2013 #63
They have no clue what Democracy is... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #65
Better late than never daybranch Jan 2013 #66
This should be a no-brainer PATRICK Jan 2013 #69
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