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77. Too bad they can't be successfully 3rd partied. If "the Left" had coalesced instead of balkanizing

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:34 PM

Jan 2013

individual issues around playing revolution with Right Winger Obamaphobiacs, maybe there'd be enough of an authentic Left constituency now to be of consequence to Obama in re his response to this XL push. I'm not sure we matter now that the vote is done.

Issues are used to leverage for and against other issues in Congress, so XL is going up against at minimum tax reform, health care, and the right to organize, so I'm not feeling real hopeful especially with talk of alliance between MoveOn and the Tea Party, which may account for what was apparently not enough of a response from what calls itself "the Left" to support the possibility of a talking filibuster to convince Harry Reid to go for it.

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9 Democrats signed letter urging quick approval of Keystone XL pipeline [View all] octoberlib Jan 2013 OP

I expect the Republicans to approve of this mess, but the Democrats? CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #1

I've been trying to find out the names of the other 7 octoberlib Jan 2013 #2

Most Democrats now-a-days are DINO's anyway. RC Jan 2013 #38

Yes, indeed. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #46

All for oil that will never be used in this country or europe. Historic NY Jan 2013 #3

Plus it's not really oil. I forget what they call it. Oil it is not. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #4

It's called "bitumen" kentauros Jan 2013 #40

Baucus 2naSalit Jan 2013 #5

Interesting. So that's why Tester wouldn't sign it . Thanks for the info on Baucus. octoberlib Jan 2013 #9

Neither one is trustworthy from my state 2naSalit Jan 2013 #12

Nine Democrats? ProSense Jan 2013 #6

Thank you, ProSense! nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #7

Thank you! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2013 #21

The ususal suspects. Ugh is right. cali Jan 2013 #25

If approved (hopefully not), the Keystone Pipeline will run through..... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #37

Excellent point. nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #63

There she is, no surprises from you Kay Hagan. nc4bo Jan 2013 #44

That should read "Mary Landrieu (D-Oil Industry)" KamaAina Jan 2013 #67

Mary Landrieu (D-La.) DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #76

Has anyone seen figures for how much energy cbrer Jan 2013 #8

Good question. nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #10

Apparently they thin it with toxic chemicals. nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #13

I believe its called crude oil jambo101 Jan 2013 #36

Actually, we won't see any of it as fuel in the US. kentauros Jan 2013 #42

Big Bad Baucus to Pres Obama: "No more excuses".. Cha Jan 2013 #11

I'll be overjoyed at even tiny steps against climate change. raouldukelives Jan 2013 #14

Yeah, let's run a pipeline full of oil over the Ogallala aquifer . . . Morning Dew Jan 2013 #15

I've read that aquifer provides water for 8 states. Disaster in the making. nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #16

That it is... Morning Dew Jan 2013 #17

I'm so glad I clicked this thread... Melinda Jan 2013 #54

Hey, Melinda! Morning Dew Jan 2013 #59

Sad, but true. That's a reason why it's gotta be stopped. n/t AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #70

Don't worry, we'll have that aquifer pumped dry soon NickB79 Jan 2013 #28

Yeah, so what's the problem here? RC Jan 2013 #39

They're going through us because it's cheaper. kentauros Jan 2013 #45

That makes sense. RC Jan 2013 #60

You're welcome :) kentauros Jan 2013 #61

It's in the works. laundry_queen Jan 2013 #72

In the end, I think, Obama will approve it The Straight Story Jan 2013 #18

For quite some time customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #27

Of course he will. woo me with science Jan 2013 #31

Obama said once the permitting process is complete it's done. Very close to all the permits finished Sunlei Jan 2013 #52

oil drenched democrats. pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #19

No. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #41

This pipeline will leave a stain on America and the politicians that blindly think Jan 2013 #20

TransCanada Does Not Have An Emergency Plan In The Event Of A Spill DallasNE Jan 2013 #22

How is it that they come to the conclusion, after this "long-studied project", to move forward with gtar100 Jan 2013 #23

Now that the election is over UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #24

canada should refine their shale oil 'in place' on their wasteland, it's for china anyway!! Sunlei Jan 2013 #26

It's not as "crazy" as it sounds to the uninformed. kentauros Jan 2013 #47

canada has miles and miles of wastelands from their shale industry, have 100% domestic needs met,.. Sunlei Jan 2013 #51

Yes, we do have lots of pipelines. kentauros Jan 2013 #55

James Hansen of NASA says it's "game over" for the climate NickB79 Jan 2013 #29

He definitely exaggerated a bit(understatement), though, to be truthful & honest with you. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #43

Nothing fantastical about it. earthside Jan 2013 #53

..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #57

Exaggerated? Really? Oilwellian Jan 2013 #56

Oh come now NickB79 Jan 2013 #78

Only as many Democrats as are needed, will participate. woo me with science Jan 2013 #30

You need some theme music for your post RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #33

Yeah, it really is. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #34

+1 Slick and for sale to the highest bidder. forestpath Jan 2013 #49

+1 leftstreet Jan 2013 #62

It's very frustrating. Government by the corporations, for the corporations. nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #65

+1000 n/t Catherina Jan 2013 #75

... xchrom Jan 2013 #32

This seems a good thread to mention the 350.org 2/17 activity: grntuscarora Jan 2013 #35

I live in VA. Just submitted comments to Mark Warner's office. Can't stand him forestpath Jan 2013 #48

Sierra Club to Engage in Civil Disobedience for First Time in Org’s History to Stop Tar Sands Oilwellian Jan 2013 #50

Good. Let's create some jobs. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #58

Will their bribes..er..campaign contributions..be delivered in brown paper bags? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #64

I can't wait to see how many more are going to lose their property through "eminent domain" GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #66

Excellent article! Thanks octoberlib Jan 2013 #69

Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #68

Kick. With this, and with the defeat of filibuster reform, woo me with science Jan 2013 #71

I'm just not rich or naive enough to keep playing along RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #73

Yup. Here, too. woo me with science Jan 2013 #81

Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #74

Too bad they can't be successfully 3rd partied. If "the Left" had coalesced instead of balkanizing patrice Jan 2013 #77

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